Where is the most ideal place to live in the Pacific Northwest?
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Where is the most ideal place to live in the Pacific Northwest?
Where is the most ideal place to live in the Pacific Northwest?
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not in Seattle or Portland.
i was thinking of moving to seattle whats wrong with it?
the people are batshit insane
most of the women look like picrel
constant grey will kill you
otherwise it's an interesting place. It looks like a mini manhattan nowadays so that's nice
hello sir i am from new dehli how hard to sleep with this beautiful woman?
Apparently there's a correlation between shitty grey overcast coastal weather and intravenous drug use. Some of the more enterprising junkies become politicians, childless women start becoming maternal over homeless junkies, and you basically have a sort of protected class of mentally ill drug addicts who can do as they please... a working class full of junkies, a middle class full of enablers, and an upper class also full of junkies but gay
the europians have been doing pretty well for themselves, I dunno what the frick happened up in the pnw
probably better health care and social support. in america they just let you rot and become homeless.
literally no one is homeless except drug addicts and schizos. you could throw a trillion dollars at the problem and they'd still be junkie schizos who prefer to sleep in a tent.
True in most places but not ultra high CoL of places like California, Washington, DC, New York, Massachusetts, etc.
We really are just at a point where the cost of living so high and wages so low that some misfortune can find you homeless.
No it fricking can't. Can you fathom how many bridges you'd have to burn before running out of friends and family you could stay with? Homelessness is correlated with high COL areas because those areas give hobos everything they need to live on the streets forever
Yes im sure they would rather live on cardboard mattresses with ratty blankets panhandling, rather than live with a parent of friend. I assure you they look pretty miserable in the cold
I do agree it isnt just loss of employment that leads to homelessness, usually its compounded with mental illness or drugs
Out of touch bourgeois fool
you voted Bernie. Sorry about your mental illness.
This explains a lot about the autism of Germans, Nordics and Brits.
It looks nothing at all like Manhattan in any way.
its a grey dystopian city full of homeless people. also expensive as shit. you can get the same vibe in austin or denver.
Limp-wristed politicians have rallied to take away the power of the police (because there's SO many underprivileged black people in the PNW), so now the homeless can set up shop in front of a business, jerk off publicly, then accost passersby with impunity. Not to mention the insane COL that does not match the QOL (or lack thereof lmao). Pair all of that up with shitty weather and uppity tech gays running rampant, and you have a disastrous combination of ignorance, arrogance and lack of accountability.
tl;dr: people make the PNW as a whole unliveable
insane homeless problem, high taxes, most people are total fricking dick heads if you aren't "part of the culture." Seattle has its own "culture" and if you aren't that, you're gonna be hated. Google "Seattle Freeze" or "Seattle Cold Shoulder"
WA has the highest taxes of any state in the west and yes Seattle is very progressive it often bothers even the older once-progressives that live here. Fall is 8 months long and ugly for 7 of them. City has insane class divides and the tech employees ruin and inflate everything
Homeless issue was worse under durkan, our new mayor is a lot harder on where they camp though, still pretty bad though
Not all bad, its more attractive than most us cities, spring and summer are beautiful, outdoor access is world class, there's actual stuff to do in the urban area
> WA has the highest taxes of any state
Lol no. I live in Vancouver next to Portland and WA having no state income tax is a god send.
I lived there in the late 2010s and all of the problems there have got worse. It's expensive as frick and mentally ill, strung out homeless will harass you constantly. There are entire cities within the city of homeless tents. $800 a month gets you a bedroom. Winters are absolutely miserable. It almost never snows, but it's drizzly and dark. Once at work in December, a patch of blue sky actually peaked out in the early afternoon and the entire office went to the window to look because we hadn't seen it since September. The non-homeless people are shit an the "Seattle Freeze" is real. Women are fat, entitled c**ts who surpass any of the incel ideas of the 300-pound beast who feels she deserves a 6'5" muscular Chad and claims to be a feminist while wanting to live off you. The men are sóy sucking homosexuals who you have to fight the urge to kick in the face.
It's not all terrible and I have some good memories of living there. There is a lot of natural beauty outside of the city. Even in mid winter, it looks very green. There's lots of really good ethnic food, especially if you like Asian and Russian. Portland is about two hours away and great for shopping and a fun weekend because no sales tax.
> The men are sóy sucking homosexuals who you have to fight the urge to kick in the face.
Lived in Portland for 10 years around the same time and this is very true, though, working-class people who grew up in the city weren’t like that at all. So many of the transplants to the area are fricking intolerable—-a terrible combo of smugness and passive aggression. They act in ways and say things that would get them beaten within an inch of their lives in other parts of the country.
I agree. In my two years in Seattle I fricking hates all the young professional yuppie homosexuals. World class SighSee nearby tho
Sums up my couple of visits to Seattle, one in August and other over Christmas and New years
...And for that dyke gay artho cashier at Cascable Western War who gave me a passive aggressive tone when I asked a question, Frick You!
seattle is great. people here are ridiculous lol. very livable city, easy to get around, beautiful nature nearby
Go to Tacoma, Spokane or if you can to kino west side at Poulsbo. Everything is shitfaced expensive so if you're gonna be there might as well make it worth it.
Don't live in the pacific north west
Missoula is, and why tf were we cut off that map
I love Missoula. But I don't think I could handle those winters. Do you own or rent? What do you do for work?
Not who you're responding to, but I lived in Missoula for almost ten years. Originally from south of there. The winters aren't bad at all. People always think Montana has brutal winters, but aside from the front and the highline it's really moderate in the valleys. The winters aren't shit compared to the great lakes or especially compared to inner New England or upstate NY.
Imo Missoula lost all it's charm and has allowed itself to become the kind of all yuppie locations. Basically full of trust fund homosexuals from out of state at this point. Even skilled jobs don't pay enough to cover cost of living there. Case in point my buddy works a tech job in Missoula and makes 60k a year which he could be making twice or more than twice if he just uprooted and went to the coast. Housing now almost comparable in price to Portland or Seattle, and going out to eat costs just as much as it does in those cities. Also, the homeless situation is getting out of hand with a now permanent camp below Reserve St that is reminiscent of Portland.
Honestly though, go and move there. It isn't going to help that city any more and will help it continue to burn itself down so I can dance on its fricking ashes.
I love Missoula, and while it *might* be considered NW compared to Eastern Montana, but definitely not PNW. It's an arid plains climate that happens to have rivers and mountains.
Montana is not the PNW, not matter how much you want to distance yourself from the flatlanders in the great plains.
if it were up to me Idaho would be off that map to, they have more in common with Colorado or Wyoming and dont even touch the Pacific.
It's a shithole, do not recommend
To live? Almost anywhere that's about an hour outside of the Eugene/Salem/Portland. The Willamette Valley is unbelievably beautiful, and keeps you within an hours drive away from the coast and the cascade mountains. Just try to avoid living in the cities, full of degeneracy/homelessness/drug addicts etc. The cities can still have nice things like nicer restaurants, but living in them kind of sux.
We still have pretty nature!
I live in Eugene, it's not nice.
None of it.
Coeur D'Alene 20 years ago
Eugene seemed nice when I visited, but that was in 2015.
it was bad for a bit but they are cracking down on the homeless now.
rural parts of the Willamette valley are nice
>it was bad for a bit but they are cracking down on the homeless now.
No they aren't
Eugene is fricking depressing. I'd rather live in liberal hell Ashland or corvallis
Port townsend
Bend 20 years ago.
I lived in Siskiyou County in Jefferson (California occupied) for a while. It was really nice except for the whole California thing. If I were going to move back to the US, Jackson County in the Oregon occupied part of Jefferson would be towards the top of my list of places to look. It's plenty rural, but Ashland and Medford are big enough that you don't feel too far from some kind of civilization.
West of the cascades is beautiful. Don't come here. East of the cascades is a shithole, you probably don't want to go there either.
This is the only real answer OP. Wenatchee I guess is alright because you're right on the east side of the Cascades.
Idaho has their shit together so much that the countries which make up the eastern two thirds of Oregon are all voting to leave OR and join ID. Won't happen though, Oregon legislature (controlled by Portland, Salem, Eugene etc.) will have to let them leave and that'll never happen.
moron take. Eastern Oregon is full of Christian Nationalists so of course they want to join Idaho.
First off, avoid the cities and college towns. The homeless and other assorted crazies make it insufferable to live in these places.
If you can enjoy more isolated areas, the Medford/Ashland region and the southern Oregon coastline is nice. The weather is more transitional there, not quite so dreary. However, Californians have driven up prices there so beware. Nice countryside with mix of oak and pine forests and some grassy hills.
Why the frick would anyone ever want to live in this expensive, homeless infested, cold, rainy shithole?
If you are able to separate yourself from moronic people problems,there is a lot of natural beauty in the cascades.
Naturally gorgeous and S tier summers
WA is literally just CA with shitty weather
Eureka, CA
Any good coastal towns in this area? California as some absolutely stunning beach towns but houses are like 2 million each
I lived in a little town west of Yreka. All the basic stuff (grocery store, hardware store, pharmacy, school, two bars, a few churches, etc.) was in walking distance for folks who lived in town. For bigger shopping, I would drive up to Ashland & Medford for the fancy grocery stores with organic stuff and the CostCo. It was kind of poor, I guess (I'm used to it), and there weren't as many options as in a big city, but it was also nice seeing the same people all the time and getting to form relationships. I kind of assume the small towns on the other side of the border are similar but with better gun laws (although, I understand that might change) and without the other general California-related stupidity.
PNW is a place you go on vacation in the summer, kinda like Alaska. If you live there the shit weather and the people will frick you up mentally.
It’s great if you like homelessness and drugs
bump
Where would you go for vacation here in the summer
Oregon Coast
Oregon Coast
North Cascades
Or
washington
I'm half hillbilly from central Oregon. Very conservative but deeply moronic. Family oriented but every family has a pedo in it, usually grandpa. So it's either dust off your CB radio or live among the commies in the cities and suburbs. Too bad because the geography is beautiful. The people have ruined it. Try somewhere else.
Happy Valley out to Sandy area of Portland is lovely. I also really like Everett and West Seattle, along with some of the country suburbs like Snohomish and Auburn. Tri Cities is kind of isolated but has most the city shit you'd want like an airport and Costco, etc. If you just avoid downtown Portland-Seattle they're great cities
what is Spokane like? is it nice?
No. It's probably the most dog shit city on that map. It's coming around though with all the people moving there from the coast. Used to basically be the Detroit of the west.
This. Sup fellow Vancouvanon. Honestly Vancouver is the best place in the US from a tax stand point. No income tax (I work abroad) and when I buy shit online I just order it to my buddies place across the river.
I work remote as well. I “technically” live in WA just for the no income tax. I got a mailbox and a storage unit in the ‘Couve and use it as my home base. Seattle would probably save me money on flights instead of flying out of PDX but w/e.
Same. I just use my buddies address as my home of record. Used to do it in Seattle for two years but that friend turned into a tool.
Tillamook gang rise up
For me personally I just want to live on the beach in a place that isn't super hot all the time like in Florida or South California. Is the Pacific Coast good for that or should I look somewhere like Jeresy or the Delmarva Peninsula?
The PACNW coast is the best coastline in the US. The towns there though have serious drug issues so if you can tolerate that I'd say go for it.
pacific coast beach is expensive. Also, "not-hot-all-the-time-beach" is kino and based, but it is also not particularly pleasant.
Instead of:
- white sand
- pleasant water
- pleasant air
- blue-green tones
- sun
you get:
- driftwood
- painful gravel
- nearly freezing deep blue ocean water
- seaweed and gulls
- cold and wind
I've had lots of great memories along the pacific northwest ocean, but I wouldn't describe any of it as "comfortable".
Sounds cool. Though I like sand and pleasant water harsh windy oceans make me feel alive.
Also PNW has temperate rainforests
in short, pacific northwest beaches will make you feel like you are an alaskan crab fisherman. sea shanties will suddenly make sense, and you will gain insight into the zeitgeist of the sailor.
think creosote, sea spray, silent buoys, dreary sunset, cold wet wind, northern lights.
wood paneled seaside structures, abandoned docks, rotting pier posts, seedy cargo yards, wet rocky northwest islands
Nowhere bro, like really. This place is full of insecure and depressed left wing yuppies who think going hiking is a personality. No one is who they say they are. The urban centers are full of homelessness and urban blight while the local governments continue to throw money at the issue causing even more homelessnes and urban blight. Portland and Seattle are dumping grounds for the nations undesirables.
I was born and raised in Portland and I cant get over how fake everything here is. No one means what they say and their only concern is what they can virtue signal to their fellow humans. Move to a real city where people at least have convictions about their beliefs and mean what they more than half the time.
If you're looking at moving here for SighSee activities you're probably part of the problem. Every parking lot for hiking trails or ski hill is full to capacity before 8am on weekends.
If you still decide to move here get ready to pay for the privilege.
tell me about places not like this. I have lived in seattle my whole life with rare exceptions. what is life like in other places, and what are the people like there? am I like this because I live here?
Rust belt cities like Chicago, Cleveland or the east coast. They arent perfect by any means but you at least know where you stand with people over there.
The thing that gets me about the PNW if the polarity of ideas. You either live in a big city like Seattle or Portland and subscribe to hyper-liberalism or at least comply with it because speaking out against would be social suicide in most circles. If you have money you can live in one of the satellite towns like Bend which is just a smaller Portland. Or you can go rural which is a mix of white trash meth heads, extreme poverty and trump flags. There is no middle ground anywhere in the PNW.
Eastern Washington is quietly being completely overrun by Hispanics, the voting base may be old republican farmers but head to Yakima or small towns around the Grand Coulee Dam and realize the migrant agricultural workers arnt migrating anymore. elementary schools are minority white and Mexican restaurants dominate every strip mall.
I live in Portland(Gresham) it's pretty chill
Does anybody know what the good parts of washington are? The places that usually put washington within the top 3 states in america? I've lived in Olympia, the Grays harbor area, and around tacoma, but all three of those places are shit. Seattle is getting better but it's soulless, same with bellevue. From what I've heard spokane is shit too. Are the places north of seattle good?
most towns around the Peninsula are full of bleak methhead trailer parks now that the timber industries have shut down.
unless you work remotely there are very few jobs or industries active out there anymore; there are several state prisons out there for a reason. they provide guaranteed jobs for a few small towns and a good way to send state money out to the area without dumping it into welfare programs.