>Why don't more Americans go overseas?

>Why don't more Americans go overseas?

Is it ignorance, stupidity?
America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist. People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth, yet most Americans don't seem to even be aware you can go anywhere except Hawaii and Cancun.

They think you're "ultra" adventurous for even having a passport FFS.

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some people are content with working a 9-5 and going home to their family. They don't need to do it in SEA, Europe, SA etc. Just let people live their lives. And honestly, the less Americans abroad the better.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went to the NL about a year ago for the 1st time, great country. But I have no intention to travel outside the US any time soon, mainly because I don't want to interrupt the work that I do. If I took a couple of weeks off to travel, then I'd be behind on my projects which are more important to me right now.
      I like my 9-5. Call me simple, but I just don't care too much about pretty old buildings.

      Same reason Americans know fewer languages than Euros or SEAs generally - when you can be in a totally different country after driving for an hour you're bound to travel more and for cheaper
      The USA is basically isolated in NA thanks to how big it is already and how far you'd have to travel from most areas to even get to Mexico or Canada, the most basic "international" traveling possible here

      We should defiantly travel more and experience other ways of doing things. Nothing like first hand experience. However, to your point, I live in New England, and if I want some culture just I'll drive into Boston - I feel pretty content. It's just not that easy to get on a plane and cross the ocean for a few weeks, now I'm down 2 to 3k.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason Americans know fewer languages than Euros or SEAs generally - when you can be in a totally different country after driving for an hour you're bound to travel more and for cheaper
    The USA is basically isolated in NA thanks to how big it is already and how far you'd have to travel from most areas to even get to Mexico or Canada, the most basic "international" traveling possible here

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/39yBvPf.jpg

      I get this is mostly bait but,

      Mostly because the whole "take 8-12 hours on just a flight" alone is the cause. Most aren't wanting to do the whole waste an entire day of travel simply to fly abroad for the sake of ??? it's nice to do a few times here and there but seriously it's like asking euros, "Why do you not drive the Route 66 or just explore the US more than just Miami, NYC, LA or Vegas? Like only once?"

      Most people I know will just drive somewhere or fly domestic, or to canada/mexico. I can hop on a 300 dollar flight be in Cancun in ~4.5 hours or the Bahamas in 6~, I could also be in alaska in ~7.

      >BUT MUH VISITED COUNTRY LIST
      Who cares lmao.

      This is absolute cope. You will find Australians and Kiwis in every corner of the world and their countries are actually in the middle of fricking nowhere and their populations are relatively small.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which is often hilarious because they do 1 big trip in their mid 20's to US/EU and then NEVER travel again. Sure some get working holiday visa's but outside SEA they rarely venture out.

        Then again, SEA is 90% of what trv cares about so makes sense

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I have met literally 2 kiwis in my entire life and one was my rugby coach. I have no idea what you're talking about.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          sully in nashville?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rob at Utah

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You won't find them more than Americans, though.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Burgers especially on here like to cope alot about their cultural shortcomings and project it onto everyone else kek

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You will find Australians and Kiwis in every corner of the world
        That's true, whereas I've never seen an American tourist. A friend of mine says he saw one, but I don't believe him.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when you can be in a totally different country after driving for an hour you're bound to travel more and for cheaper
      You are bound to do more international traveling. Americans do a lot of traveling within their own country, which is incredibly diverse in terms of geography, and more culturally diverse than most who don't live there would imagine.

      Europeans are much more likely to have visited another country, since most can do so by driving for a few hours or taking a short train trip. Curious by OP's post, I tried to find any information on how frequently Europeans travel to another continent, as opposed to how frequently American do. Have not yet found that data.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        America isn't that big

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        In n out being popular in one state vs mcdonalds in another is not culture

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You have never traveled in the US

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Curious by OP's post, I tried to find any information on how frequently Europeans travel to another continent, as opposed to how frequently American do. Have not yet found that data.
        I do not have data to give you but even by very rough estimates and logically, infinitely more. Just think of popular package holiday destinations for Europeans. Canary Islands are geographically in Africa. Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, the gulf states, Vietnam, Thailand and India are all very popular among Europeans.

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist.
    The five Swiss franc coins in my pocket, currently worth US$5.66 apiece and stable, would love to chat with you about that.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh shut up pussy we all know the world bows to the american petrodollar

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just imagine some Swiss guy trying to to impress some thirdie waitress by paying his bar tab with his swiss franks like pic rel
      >S-sorry sir... Local or US dollars only

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a combination of ignorance and arrogance.
    They simulatenously know little of the world and believe America is the only world worth knowing.
    This isn't exclusive to them however, every big country (Russia, China, Brazil, India, etc.) suffers from the same delusion, thinking that regional variation is a substitute for national differences.
    From my POV this isn't a bad thing doe, do you really want more obnoxious tourists swarming everywhere?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do you really want more obnoxious tourists swarming everywhere
      But america does get shithead international tourists. Granted it's mostly in the coastal States and Vegas, But you will see them quite quickly.
      Plus as someone who works in a major European museum, you get Americans.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia, China, Brazil, India,
      Dude, they are poor. That is why they don't travel so much.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        these countries do share that big country autism, though.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most Americans can not afford a $1000 emergency and many Americans have less than two weeks a year of time off from work, that employers are hesitant to give.

      If these things are true then how come passport joggers are infiltrating everywhere and alot of places are getting saturated by Americans?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How many places are passport brothas "infiltrating," really?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          The typical containment zones (medellin, maybe some parts of flip and thailand, etc) but there is definitely an increase of sub5 and even above guys traveling for women from the US due to social media.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking that regional variation is a substitute for national differences
      In all fairness, America's situation is unique due to how early colonies had shaped cultural/regional differences. For an example - there's much bigger differences between the South and West Coast than there is between the US and Canada.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >America's situation is unique due to how early colonies had shaped cultural/regional differences.
        History didn't start in 1776. ~90% of current countries were similarly regionally shaped by foreing powers.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most Americans can not afford a $1000 emergency and many Americans have less than two weeks a year of time off from work, that employers are hesitant to give.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Most Americans can not afford a $1000 emergency
      Which also boggles my mind.

      I get that rent and mortgages are expensive but holy shit what else are people spending 3k a month on? And they can't save even a little so they aren't FUBAR from minor mishaps?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They have to pay back credit card/student debt

        • 3 months ago
          Dylan

          Not if Biden has anything to say about it

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's a lot of things, ignorance, arrogance, "big populous country" syndrome Awhere there's a wide variety of things to do without leaving the country, or even the state in a lot of cases. And good old xenophobia. Going to places like SEA or South America is viewed with suspicion, like "it's 'dangerous' to go there so you must be up to no good." And most americans are slaves to their jobs and consoomerism. Euros value experiences, Americans like having stuff. This is especially true among lower class Americans. Most people buy the nicest car they can afford, rather than a less expensive car to save money. This isn't even an argument about car dependency, poor Americans will buy a $60k SUV or truck but never leave their state and never take time off work. Euros will drive a basic VW Golf or something but its very important to them to spend a month in Cyprus or somewhere every year.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >poor Americans will buy a $60k SUV or truck but never leave their state and never take time off work.
          Absolutely true. I live in a red state and it's unbelievable the amount of rednecks on the verge of bankruptcy sporting brand new Ford F150s.

          They don't even have any time to drive the thing because they live to work. And they're all obsessed with slaving away for companies that don't give a damn about them.

          >Euros will drive a basic VW Golf or something but its very important to them to spend a month in Cyprus or somewhere every year.
          Literally me. I feel like I was born with a European spirit. I have nothing in common with most Americans. Only to leave and find out I was the normal one all along.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I never understood how my fellow burgers cope with living here, unless you were born with upper middle class parents life here is extremely difficult. At least if you are a europoor you can live frugally and frick off somewhere for a month with paid vacation, I basically work to travel anyway and get out of this pussy prison. And on top of that your family probably lives in a city with some semblance of a social life and walkable neigborhood, for most Americans that is luxery they have to pay 2k+ a month to live on their own

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I can buy a house with a decent paying job
              I work remotely where as most every european I know in tech is back into an office at least 2 weeks a month
              Rent in my area is about 650 for a 600sqft 1 br apartment in a decent area with a metro pop of about 300k
              Property tax is virtually nothing for a 3 br / 2 ba ~185k home
              Crime is low because I don't live in a coastal hell hole city
              Cost of living is stupidly low in the midwest, flights around the country are cheap

              >At least if you are a europoor you can live frugally and frick off somewhere for a month with paid vacation
              lol, you must not know many europeans then.

              Where the frick can you smoke in a nighclub in America? If anything muttmerica has 10x the cucked laws regarding this sort of degeneracy (illegal prostitution, can't drink a can of beer in public, alot of states nighclubs close at 2 or cant buy liquor past a certain time, etc)

              Vegas has a bunch, most nightclubs have a separate area to smoke in. Though caring about smoking is stupid lmao who smokes.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Flyover coper, no one wants to move into some midsized mutt city with a population of 70% 40+ year olds and overweight foids with absolutely nothing to do in their 20s or 30s kek. Why do you homosexuals even come on this board

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            kys

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        After taxes and health insurance I only make 2300 a month. Not everyone just has a spare 3k a month, in fact most people do not.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The gross median income in America is not even $3k. It’s about $2.5k. After taxes. 50% of the country is making $2k or less after taxes. At least $1k goes right out the door to rent or mortgage payments and another $.5k per month on food and groceries. 50% of Americans have less than $500 per month to spend on everything other than food and shelter.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The gross median income in America is not even $3k. It’s about $2.5k. After taxes. 50% of the country is making $2k or less after taxes. At least $1k goes right out the door to rent or mortgage payments and another $.5k per month on food and groceries. 50% of Americans have less than $500 per month to spend on everything other than food and shelter.
          Chat is this true?

          • 3 months ago
            Chat

            Aye, it be truthful.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              i see you. good post

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe in Mississippi, kek. $2500/month is the base after-tax starting salary for a full-time worker where I was working in Colorado.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >full-time
              Therein lies the rub…

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >many Americans have less than two weeks a year of time off from work, that employers are hesitant to give.
      This is a bigger reason imo; even with low wages, a single guy with no family or mortgage could save money to travel. However, that 10 days of PTO is often both vacation AND sick leave in the same pool, and it can be denied due to business needs unless it oversteps a legal boundary like FMLA.

      Some people quit their jobs to travel with money they saved up.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Money. Americans don’t have cash on hand and those that do don’t have the time, or the desire.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you living in 40 years ago? God foreigners are fricking stupid.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    most of the world isn't worth visiting. staying in the USA is better than traveling to 90% of Europe, 90% of Asia, 100% of Africa and 100% of South America

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      if this isn't a sly "frick off we're full" thing I feel sorry for you

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        no it's not. Why would I want to go to some shithole and be harrassed by brown thirdworld scum when we can stay in the #1 country on Earth. America has beaches, mountains, deserts, glaciers, etc. etc. without shitskins bug people everywhere

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

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          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            beautiful Europe

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              no it's not. Why would I want to go to some shithole and be harrassed by brown thirdworld scum when we can stay in the #1 country on Earth. America has beaches, mountains, deserts, glaciers, etc. etc. without shitskins bug people everywhere

              Do /misc/cels really believe europe is everywhere like that ?
              I mean with that logic I can post a picture of Baltimore and say why would you leave in the US when it's 99% black people.

              Of course there are some places in London or basically any country in Europe that are almost non recognisable, but it's fricking easy to avoid them. You'd be even really unlucky to step into them.

              https://i.imgur.com/39yBvPf.jpg

              I get this is mostly bait but,

              Mostly because the whole "take 8-12 hours on just a flight" alone is the cause. Most aren't wanting to do the whole waste an entire day of travel simply to fly abroad for the sake of ??? it's nice to do a few times here and there but seriously it's like asking euros, "Why do you not drive the Route 66 or just explore the US more than just Miami, NYC, LA or Vegas? Like only once?"

              Most people I know will just drive somewhere or fly domestic, or to canada/mexico. I can hop on a 300 dollar flight be in Cancun in ~4.5 hours or the Bahamas in 6~, I could also be in alaska in ~7.

              >BUT MUH VISITED COUNTRY LIST
              Who cares lmao.

              What are you doing on the SighSee board ?
              Also there are people from all over the world visiting many parts of the US.
              I was in Raleigh NC recently and the hostel was full of euros.
              Do you think no one from abroad goes in Seatle, Austin, Orlando, Atlanta, Philadelhia etc ?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Allow me to make sense of all this for you. You people don't live up to your own hype. You fail miserably at doing so, which primes visitors for disappointment and makes it less worthwhile to burn thousands of dollars and days of travel time to visit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Also there are people from all over the world visiting many parts of the US.
                Point is that most people regardless of nationality stick domestic you room temp IQ poster.

                Burgers visit europe
                Euros visit Burgerstan

                Though the vast majority of people are not going to cross the oceans just to go on their holiday.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I get this is mostly bait but,

    Mostly because the whole "take 8-12 hours on just a flight" alone is the cause. Most aren't wanting to do the whole waste an entire day of travel simply to fly abroad for the sake of ??? it's nice to do a few times here and there but seriously it's like asking euros, "Why do you not drive the Route 66 or just explore the US more than just Miami, NYC, LA or Vegas? Like only once?"

    Most people I know will just drive somewhere or fly domestic, or to canada/mexico. I can hop on a 300 dollar flight be in Cancun in ~4.5 hours or the Bahamas in 6~, I could also be in alaska in ~7.

    >BUT MUH VISITED COUNTRY LIST
    Who cares lmao.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much this. also having responsibilities in America. Why pay for rent for a month if I'm just going to be abroad anyway? If I get 2 weeks of vacation a year to go somewhere worth using it like Japan, SEA, or a decent country in Europe would be $1500+ on just flights alone, then you have to actually be on the flight for 8-16 hours each way.

      We lived in Europe for years and once we were acutally over there we went to a ton of countries because they were all close to each other and we could get round trip flights for $50 or take trains/buses. Same as when we lived in the US we went to 45 states. No way in hell would I have been to 45 states if I had to pay to fly back and forth from Europe each time.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fly to mexico
    >get beaches climate aztec shit and money goes pretty far
    >people can often speak english+spanish so getting around isn't an issue
    >flight time is usually under 8 hours total
    >around 400-500 round trip flight

    >fly to canada
    >money is monopoly toys
    >can go do everything on each side of it since nothing is in the middle
    >could drive if I felt like it, but good views of the mountains, nature, and stuff
    >around 300-400 round trip

    >Cruise or flight to Bahamas for a week or so
    >tropical paradise
    >money spends unrivaled to the Euro, cheap everything even if it is a knock off it's good
    >bunch of colonial history, great food, super easy to get to
    >cheap from virtually every airport

    >decide to try asia
    >direct flight from all major airports surprisingly decently priced
    >money spends like nothing else
    >basically free waved with US passport
    >have a blast the entire time rarely ever haggled
    >flying back means I get a day back with the international date line with my travels, if lucky a day in hawaii for layover
    >800-1200 but offset by hotel costs
    (1/2)

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Bahamas
      >cheap

      what the frick? Shit was outrageously expensive last I checked even more expensive than USA

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what the frick? Shit was outrageously expensive last I checked even more expensive than USA
        You can literally fly into Miami with frontier for dirt cheap and get a 7 or 10 day cruise for under 600

        I was lazy and found a 11 night on google, but I am sure if you looked for more than 2 minutes there are better deals. This is literally why americans don't travel to "the rest of the world" aka just Europe to most the internet.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >paying to be amongst a bunch of crusty old boomers
          >even worse... They're americans

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay? are you ESL? My point was that as an american, a cruise for 2 people can be <600 for 11 days as seen there in the post you replied to. That means all I need to do is just pay for a flight+cruise and my hotel and shit is done to see the gulf.

            Try to compare that to 11 days in Europe for the same ~1100-1200 dollar budget for 2.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Try to compare that to 11 days in Europe for the same ~1100-1200 dollar budget for 2.
              Coming from the USA*

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >budget for 2.
              There's your problem. Ditch the hole and see Europe for real. Nobody to hold you back from seeing the non-touristy places and stopping for a fricking selfie.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay that's cool to say online and all but again OP's question is literally why don't people from america do X. It's because travel within the USA and surrounding countries is so damn cheap that it's really not on the top of the list for most.

                >Nobody to hold you back from seeing the non-touristy places and stopping for a fricking selfie.
                This is great to say but again, you are burning at least 2 days simply getting to and from Europe as an American. That's traveling only and I haven't gotten to airline costs. After you get to a "main place" you have to either get a car or beg the trains to not go on strike that week because ~reasons~ or the bus to not be filled with migrants so you can't get on, hell might not even show up if you booked flix! It's not time effective given the fact you lost at least 2, if not 3 days traveling to Europe, to do so unless you know exactly where it is.

                This is like going LOL holy shit you went to LA and didn't go to Big Bear lake for peak comfy? LMAO don't you know that exists? pfft fricking morons! I bet you wanted to see hollywood lol.

                Renting a car is stupid because your vacation will just be doubled in price. So where is the places you suggest? As someone who's done rural Germany, Belgium, Finland, and Norway; for extended stays. I gotta ask where you are talking about that the average person taking a 2-3 week vacation suppose to go without blowing up the bank just to go to "ohh quaint town in the alps!".

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not OP
                I have consistaly found <$400 flights out of Texas to Mexico, Central America, the Carribbean and Colombia; Also Lima. That's great, but I want Europe. I used to lived there and want to visit for a month or so. I have yet to find a cheap flight.
                Deutsche Bahn train tickets have skyrocketed in price since I was there.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                *consistently

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay?
                Not sure what you are saying, I was explaining that the reason most americans don't go to europe is because it's cost prohibitive and inefficient on time given vacation time for most Americans being 2-4 weeks.

                > I have yet to find a cheap flight.
                This is my whole point to OP... My point was spending 1100-1200 for 2 people for a flight and 11 or so day cruise when in the US compared to that of flight to EU+hotel+car+expenses+planning; is just unappealing to many.

                I'm lost as to what you are asking? I'm not saying america is cheap to europeans, I am saying that crossing the atlantic is a barrier that usually turns both sides off to just constantly visiting.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Germany, Belgium, Finland, and Norway
                All four extremely expensive and rich countries. The entirety of Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean lays before you and you're talking about "quaint towns" in Switzerland. You might be moronic.

                Not OP
                I have consistaly found <$400 flights out of Texas to Mexico, Central America, the Carribbean and Colombia; Also Lima. That's great, but I want Europe. I used to lived there and want to visit for a month or so. I have yet to find a cheap flight.
                Deutsche Bahn train tickets have skyrocketed in price since I was there.

                >That's great, but I want Europe. I used to lived there and want to visit for a month or so. I have yet to find a cheap flight.
                And again, what the frick are you on about? Google flights can quote me dozens of different options below $400 and many round trip. I think you're just moronic

                Enjoy your plastic cruises.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And again, what the frick are you on about? Google flights can quote me dozens of different options below $400 and many round trip. I think you're just moronic
                Post pics round trip from US->Europe for sub 400

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                not that anon but you can certainly find flights from new york to london or paris for about that price if you're prepared to book far enough ahead and accept some fairly basic conditions- no check-in luggage, no assigned seating etc. google shows round-trip flights from JFK to CDG for around $410 in april, for example

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cheapest I see is ~450 for the most basic round trip to LHR, but you have to basically assume you live in NY or right by Newark airport to get that deal, anywhere else and your fricked.

                The point being made here still stands though as to what people are saying.

                Taking a cheap domestic flight to Miami or some port with a cruise is cheap as hell, Denver to Miami on frontier round trip is like maybe 100-120 bucks if you want extra bags on frontier. Then you got your cruise for <600 bucks that's your hotel, all in all a 2 week vacation is costing you and your +1, less than 1000 to see a few places.

                Pic is the cheapest non layover hell to london from denver, 685 for 1 person x2 let's just call it 1400
                Hotels are going to run ~100/night unless you want to live in a pajeet village x100 1100
                Then you have to also add on the train tickets to get around the country that might go on strike or something again who knows but 100 should get you around most places for the stay

                You're looking at the following and this is how people see it
                2700 minimum for 11 nights in London or 1100 for 11 nights around Caribbean and mexico.

                Domestic travel is stupid cheap which is why most people on both sides of the water often stick to shit closer and more economical.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >wahh my flyover city doesnt have cheap direct flghts wahh
                stay home homosexual

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >why don't they go overseas?
                The excessive cost and time investment needed for a good portion of the country. If you're not in the coasts or Chicago, you need to spend an entire 2 days basically getting somewhere because you need to spend several hours making it to a coastal airport to then go on a long haul flight to your destination, and you have to do it again to make it home. It's also expensive if you need to leave from these places as opposed to flying out of the coasts. You brought up cancun for a reason, and that's because even for midwestereners, it's not that far and inaccessible.

                Most Americans live in major population centers, which are expensive to live in. Sure, the dollar goes far abroad, but it doesn't make things cheap at home. You can fly out of Boston or NYC or Miami easily, but living in these places is going to slash most people's savings.
                >you're ultra adventurous for having a passport
                37% have a valid passport, 20% have an expired passport. It's not about being adventurous or not, it's a matter of "do you have the finances to do it, do you have the time to do it, and do you have the interest in doing it?" Almost 40% can actively afford and have the time and interest in going abroad and do so, another 20% have clearly gone before, but aren't renewing passports, meaning that they cannot afford or have the time to do so again. I'm in that boat right now, I love travel but I don't have the time right now. I'm jumping into my career fresh out of my graduate program, and it would frick me over to not bust ass the next two years, so I don't need a passport at all right now. I'm just fine with going to California or Utah's state parks this summer, and a trip to the coast for beaches this winter, especially because it only costs me 3 vacation days without affecting my career progression at all.

                This is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. The flights and stays to Europe or Asia alone costs a full vacation in Mexico.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can find plenty of flights from NYC to Madrid on off season for around 400 to 600

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                It is still incredibly costly to travel in the US with air compared to European options and on top of that no rail options either so you are already wasting a frick ton of time dealing with TSA and whatnot.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spirit and frontier are stupid cheap to get around the country with. Never had a problem so long as I followed the baggage rules which are very similar to things like Ryanair.
                >no rail options either so you are already
                My city has amtrak
                >frick ton of time dealing with TSA and whatnot.
                If you fly so regularly you don't have TSA precheck or GE then lol. Also European airports can be equally as shit.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think Ryanair has lower offers than you'd find around the US but idk how many euros actually pay that price. I feel like people on average are paying closer to US prices for travel. Prices for US airlines tend to be more consistent. Ryanair gives away crazy deals but a lot are off-season when few euros are traveling. Americans tend to take vacations over more of the year with the peak around Christmas, something Europe doesn't see as much of.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >spirit and frontier
                Filled with joggers most of the time post covid and Ryan Air still mogs
                >Amtrak
                JFL not even going to address this one
                >If you fly so regularly you don't have TSA precheck or GE then lol. Also European airports can be equally as shit.
                The Laquisha at precheck doesnt even recognize it at peak time, most europoor airports esp in Med countries are way more lax

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                big bear bro?

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Okay? are you ESL?
              You talk like a woman homosexual.

              I got nothing to do with your shit. I was just insulting your choice of vacation.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >frontier
          Carry on bags incur an additional $80. Each way. Checked luggage is around $120 per.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Damn, my bag and its contents are not even worth $120.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you buy at the gate, if you're doing a small personal item it's free. Hell you could find cheap domestic american airlines flight

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Look at europe
    >euro isn't that promising
    >12-18hr total travel time+ time difference 1 way means I burn 2 days just getting there back and forth
    >why does EVERY flight connect through LHR where Jeets run the stupid ass place and often frick shit up
    >British airways or someone fricked up the layover again
    >next flight in +12hrs because reasons
    >decide to go to a pub
    >it's OI U AMERICAN WOT U THINK BOUT TRUMP GUNS HEALTHCARE THING ON CCN
    >killmenow.jpg
    >everyone constantly asking me if I brought any cartons of cigs with me to visit at any CBP stop
    >get to hotel check in guy in spain refuses to speak english but know some spanish from high school enough to check in, I guess spanish isn't "spainard spanish" even though it works in mexico and south america and gives me a roll eyes
    >bed is fricking hard as a rock, do europoors really? Oh AC has a not on it to "please conserve energy the AC turns off when you leave" so it's always hot arriving back
    >go get a beer it's warm okay whatever, it's supposedly cheap here... nope ~6 bucks same as back home
    >next day go out Boomer french tourist that no one seems to talk about are on par with chinese tourists
    >someone asking me to sign a form with kids around get vibes of scam all over it walk away she starts screaming at me
    >every attraction is either filled with chinks, nogs selling things, or boomers from europe telling me how times have changed
    >lol.wav
    >do this or a few countries nogs/chinks/boomers clogging up everything
    >decide to go to the country side buses and trains delayed out the ass but everyone just accepts it in autistic german fashion
    >scandi's outside fin's too autistic to complain about it
    >every "picture perfect spot" feels like a theme park ride even if outside a tour group
    >rinse and repeat every time I visit
    >only stick around to use some vacation days after I am done with work there

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good if Americans don't leave their containments zones.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be low value male (incel)
    >moves to shithole
    >why don’t more of my countrymen just lower their standards and wallow in filth like I do?

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's nothing outside of the US I want to see. The rest of the world is a shithole full of the proudest shitholers

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    To and from USA is by far the most expensive flights in the world. We are so far removed from everything. We don't get the luxury of $200-$400 flights. Unless we want to fly on some shit airline in the dog pound, we are forking out $1000 per ticket to go anywhere decent.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Flights are freaking expensive. I want to go back to Europe. 90% of flights are $800+. I want to see East Asia, flights are $1000+. I want to visit South America, same story. Colombia is the only exception. My new passport has no stamps and that is very sad.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly, im at poland right now. Was previously on oslo.

    Honest advice, dont bother. Smoking and drinking is illegal here and locals dont speak english so im just incredibly bored. You cant even smoke in nightclub, which is moronic.

    Only advice i got is never come to poland but Italys kinda nice, same for Greece. I will probably check Auswitchz and work my ass off here, but thats it.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where are you where it's illegal? I was friendly with a Russian exchange-student who did an EuroRail trip at some point, and he told me to visit Poland and Hamburg to get fricked on booze. Hamburg certainly didn't disappoint.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where the frick can you smoke in a nighclub in America? If anything muttmerica has 10x the cucked laws regarding this sort of degeneracy (illegal prostitution, can't drink a can of beer in public, alot of states nighclubs close at 2 or cant buy liquor past a certain time, etc)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This post encapsulates this anon's [...]
        point, most burgers are perfectly fine consuming goyslop on their plot of land with their f150 with absolutely nothing to do in their surrounding area kek

        Flyover coper, no one wants to move into some midsized mutt city with a population of 70% 40+ year olds and overweight foids with absolutely nothing to do in their 20s or 30s kek. Why do you homosexuals even come on this board

        Here's another example of why Americans might not want to travel to europe all the time. Who the frick wants to pay thousands of dollars and cross an ocean to be surrounded by these morons?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keep coping Cleatus, nothing I said was wrong

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody, especially nobody who has actually done a significant amount of traveling, is at all moved by your moronic, pedestrian european opinions, not a soul

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    a better question is, why would you want them to? 90% of americans are destructive, corrupting subhuman morons incapable of thought, and of the remaining 10% who could be considered thinking human beings, the ones who can actually afford to regularly travel abroad ae far too elitist and aloof to be worth spending any time around

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      But enough about europeans

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything cool is a 12+ hour flight from here.

    We generally can afford a weeks vacation. I don't want to spend 2 days traveling, and 2 days jet lagged to shit.

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm an American that made less than 20k a year when I started journeying. Been more places than anyone I know here in the Midwest. Most Europoors too. Just bought a 5 bedroom 3 bathroom house with a big yard for 330k. Still plan on going to China this year. My secret? Having a prefrontal cortex.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5 bedroom
      You got a spouse nearly doubling your income?

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    First, USA regularly comes in near the top of tourist arrival stats for most of the world.
    Second, "Live like a king" is an inaccurate meme. Kings don't sleep in rental rooms, ride in taxis or eat at restaurants.
    Third, not everyone craves luxury pampering, and many Americans prefer rural tourism to visiting major cities. The American homeowner with a spacious yard and a pickup truck can live like a king on his own property, drive where he pleases and buy whatever food he wants to eat. With a camper trailer, he has an entire nation open to exploration on his timetable. Why deal with the ordeal of air travel and leaving all the comforts of home behind, dealing with foreign languages and eating unknown foods?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fourth, I'm very gay and pompous, my homosexuality spews through the screen like a venomous goo

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but if you saw that post as pompous you are very insecure.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but am that anon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This post encapsulates this anon's

      https://i.imgur.com/yuVoxQY.png

      >poor Americans will buy a $60k SUV or truck but never leave their state and never take time off work.
      Absolutely true. I live in a red state and it's unbelievable the amount of rednecks on the verge of bankruptcy sporting brand new Ford F150s.

      They don't even have any time to drive the thing because they live to work. And they're all obsessed with slaving away for companies that don't give a damn about them.

      >Euros will drive a basic VW Golf or something but its very important to them to spend a month in Cyprus or somewhere every year.
      Literally me. I feel like I was born with a European spirit. I have nothing in common with most Americans. Only to leave and find out I was the normal one all along.

      point, most burgers are perfectly fine consuming goyslop on their plot of land with their f150 with absolutely nothing to do in their surrounding area kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Why deal with the ordeal of air travel and leaving all the comforts of home behind, dealing with foreign languages and eating unknown foods?
      For the experience?
      Why are you on this board?

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth
    Where is this even true anymore? It sure as shit isn't "90% of the earth"

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about living like a king but if you are an American who isnt a flyover or rural coper you can live significantly lower your COL with the same salary and cities like CDMX, Sevilla, Bangkok, etc

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of stigma against living abroad as a white american male, you can get attacked by simps if you ever come back to the US. They claim that it’s because you’re colonizing and exploiting women. In reality they’re upset that you’re not performing the time honored role of buxxing a landwhale.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally no one cares about this besides a few terminally online roasties and onions boys, most le sexpat destinations are frequented by normies now anyway

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You say this but I've seen very few even expats while overseas. I honestly think most people can't afford to go anywhere longer than 2 weeks, or sustainably digital nomad unless they live in basically a 15 dollar per night hostel somewhere. Basically, I'm saying most people are lying about their travels online. Most passport bros just go to the carribbean I think.

        I guess I might post about it if I decide to go to the carribbean. Personally I like asia because I'm white and stick out everywhere. Don't wanna stick out in the wrong place.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. It’s really fricking expensive to cross an ocean from America
    2. We can travel within our own country and find different climates and cultures
    3. We have literally everything in America except really old buildings

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We cant afford it

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    We literally don't have a lot of time off to be able to do that. 99% of employers are extremely reluctant to give any time off and we barely have any national holidays (a least we get MLK day now!!!). Also, there's this culture of making employees feel bad if they take time off, and everyone is scared to be replaced at the moment.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      SighSee tier bait.

      Euros mostly only go overseas to "lads holidays" or boomer resorts in cheap poor mediterranean countries. If Germans and Brits and Dutch had warm weather and good beaches in their own countries they'd never leave either.

      This, most europoors who come through hawaii are only there for their 20's gap on their parents money to "see the USA" before a job, the other handful are newly weds who get a huge culture shock by the homeless problem

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your misery radiates through the screen.

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Euros mostly only go overseas to "lads holidays" or boomer resorts in cheap poor mediterranean countries. If Germans and Brits and Dutch had warm weather and good beaches in their own countries they'd never leave either.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bruh you know you can reply to more than one person per post right? Put the keyboard down for a sec and go take your meds lmao.

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth,
    Most flights cost 1+months wages and involve dealing with airlines/airports/TSA.

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where to go? I like weed and shrooms and good weather. I find Asians to be bug people . I am blue eyed.

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I work in tech, and moving literally anywhere else would mean cutting my income by over 50%. The closest country is Switzerland which is more expensive than most places, so taking that much of a paycut is just silly.
    I would like to retire overseas, but that comes with its own challenges since visas are easier to get when you're young and willing to work.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      just get a remote job and immigrate illegally, bro

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just haven't gotten around to it yet

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll tell you what I told my posh African-British geopolitics professor in college, America is big. There is plenty to see without ever having a passport.

    As a kid, the yearly family vacation was typically to a waterpark/resort (2.5 hr. drive); a cabin in the woods (4.5 hr. drive); a short drive to the tallest building in the world; and on rare occasions flights to California, Florida, or the grandparents out in the Rocky Mountains... we don't exactly need to live our lives like serfs if we don't leave the country.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it’s comfortability.

    You can live a super comfy life in America if you live in the right place. Especially if you’re family oriented that basically cements the lack of desire to travel.

    Me personally, even if I travel, I don’t want it to be some kind of minefield. I want to be comfy

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Americans wander about overseas because we have nothing keeping us in America. We don't buy round-trip tickets either.
      It's sure as hell better to be living on $880/month in Thailand than it is to be living on $880/month in a van in Arizona. My flight costs for this winter in SEA average $320/month. That's roughly 35% of expenses. But this is only doable because I have no life in America, so I am OK with hanging out in SEA doing nothing for months at a time.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, I want to return to springtime America and drive my old van around the Ozark hills and Allegheny ridges until it breaks down. It's comfy living in Southeast Asian cities, but nothing at all like the freedom of being high and cruising back roads in the middle of nowhere under the warm sunshine.
    Once I hit the road, I will be stuck with my van. So I will drive it into the ground, sell it to a redneck for $300, then GTFO of America, because the country is no place to be without a car. Finances should be good until spring 2025, the start of summer seasonal employment. Maybe I'll work in a fish cannery in Alaska with a bunch of Filipinos.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      6 months USA/6 months abroad: the dream

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had a trip overseas pretty much lined up. New passport. Had to use vacation days or they'd expire. And what happened? I ended up not going. Was too scared. I've never gone through an airport, and don't know what to expect. I haven't even left my state, let alone my country. I got overwhelmed thinking of what I need to bring, what I shouldn't bring, a potential language barrier, potential criminals, figuring out the logistics of tourism. It was too much and I just ended up stalling out the clock. My vacation starts next week and I'll be spending it at home.

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spoken like someone with a weak passport.
    Seeth

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You must not have been to Paris or Rome then

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    half of us are too poor for expensive vacations

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If someone handed me a remote job making 2k a month I would be gone tomorrow, but I’m too lazy to figure out how to get a remote jog and I’m definitely not learning how to code

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      im living your dream and would advice to stay home, dealing with third world shitheads isnt worth it. Even now theres some moronic b***h in the dorms who came in sick and i wish shed drop dead.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anywhere except hawaii and cancun
    In the last 4 months all but two people I know who left the country all went to Puerto Vallarta. Checkmate moron.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Why don't more Americans go overseas?
    I get 3 weeks of vacation per year and you can only take 1 week at a time.

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist
    Holy moron

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