>Why don't more Americans go overseas?
Is it ignorance, stupidity?
America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist. People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth, yet most Americans don't seem to even be aware you can go anywhere except Hawaii and Cancun.
They think you're "ultra" adventurous for even having a passport FFS.
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Some people are content with working a 9-5 and going home to their family. They don't need to do it in SEA, Europe, SA etc. Just let people live their lives. And honestly, the less Americans abroad the better.
I went to the NL about a year ago for the 1st time, great country. But I have no intention to travel outside the US any time soon, mainly because I don't want to interrupt the work that I do. If I took a couple of weeks off to travel, then I'd be behind on my projects which are more important to me right now.
I like my 9-5. Call me simple, but I just don't care too much about pretty old buildings.
We should defiantly travel more and experience other ways of doing things. Nothing like first hand experience. However, to your point, I live in New England, and if I want some culture just I'll drive into Boston - I feel pretty content. It's just not that easy to get on a plane and cross the ocean for a few weeks, now I'm down 2 to 3k.
Same reason Americans know fewer languages than Euros or SEAs generally - when you can be in a totally different country after driving for an hour you're bound to travel more and for cheaper
The USA is basically isolated in NA thanks to how big it is already and how far you'd have to travel from most areas to even get to Mexico or Canada, the most basic "international" traveling possible here
This is absolute cope. You will find Australians and Kiwis in every corner of the world and their countries are actually in the middle of fricking nowhere and their populations are relatively small.
Which is often hilarious because they do 1 big trip in their mid 20's to US/EU and then NEVER travel again. Sure some get working holiday visa's but outside SEA they rarely venture out.
Then again, SEA is 90% of what trv cares about so makes sense
I have met literally 2 kiwis in my entire life and one was my rugby coach. I have no idea what you're talking about.
sully in nashville?
Rob at Utah
You won't find them more than Americans, though.
Burgers especially on here like to cope alot about their cultural shortcomings and project it onto everyone else kek
>You will find Australians and Kiwis in every corner of the world
That's true, whereas I've never seen an American tourist. A friend of mine says he saw one, but I don't believe him.
>when you can be in a totally different country after driving for an hour you're bound to travel more and for cheaper
You are bound to do more international traveling. Americans do a lot of traveling within their own country, which is incredibly diverse in terms of geography, and more culturally diverse than most who don't live there would imagine.
Europeans are much more likely to have visited another country, since most can do so by driving for a few hours or taking a short train trip. Curious by OP's post, I tried to find any information on how frequently Europeans travel to another continent, as opposed to how frequently American do. Have not yet found that data.
America isn't that big
In n out being popular in one state vs mcdonalds in another is not culture
You have never traveled in the US
>Curious by OP's post, I tried to find any information on how frequently Europeans travel to another continent, as opposed to how frequently American do. Have not yet found that data.
I do not have data to give you but even by very rough estimates and logically, infinitely more. Just think of popular package holiday destinations for Europeans. Canary Islands are geographically in Africa. Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, the gulf states, Vietnam, Thailand and India are all very popular among Europeans.
>America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist.
The five Swiss franc coins in my pocket, currently worth US$5.66 apiece and stable, would love to chat with you about that.
oh shut up pussy we all know the world bows to the american petrodollar
I just imagine some Swiss guy trying to to impress some thirdie waitress by paying his bar tab with his swiss franks like pic rel
>S-sorry sir... Local or US dollars only
It's a combination of ignorance and arrogance.
They simulatenously know little of the world and believe America is the only world worth knowing.
This isn't exclusive to them however, every big country (Russia, China, Brazil, India, etc.) suffers from the same delusion, thinking that regional variation is a substitute for national differences.
From my POV this isn't a bad thing doe, do you really want more obnoxious tourists swarming everywhere?
>do you really want more obnoxious tourists swarming everywhere
But america does get shithead international tourists. Granted it's mostly in the coastal States and Vegas, But you will see them quite quickly.
Plus as someone who works in a major European museum, you get Americans.
>Russia, China, Brazil, India,
Dude, they are poor. That is why they don't travel so much.
these countries do share that big country autism, though.
If these things are true then how come passport joggers are infiltrating everywhere and alot of places are getting saturated by Americans?
How many places are passport brothas "infiltrating," really?
The typical containment zones (medellin, maybe some parts of flip and thailand, etc) but there is definitely an increase of sub5 and even above guys traveling for women from the US due to social media.
>thinking that regional variation is a substitute for national differences
In all fairness, America's situation is unique due to how early colonies had shaped cultural/regional differences. For an example - there's much bigger differences between the South and West Coast than there is between the US and Canada.
>America's situation is unique due to how early colonies had shaped cultural/regional differences.
History didn't start in 1776. ~90% of current countries were similarly regionally shaped by foreing powers.
Most Americans can not afford a $1000 emergency and many Americans have less than two weeks a year of time off from work, that employers are hesitant to give.
>Most Americans can not afford a $1000 emergency
Which also boggles my mind.
I get that rent and mortgages are expensive but holy shit what else are people spending 3k a month on? And they can't save even a little so they aren't FUBAR from minor mishaps?
They have to pay back credit card/student debt
Not if Biden has anything to say about it
It's a lot of things, ignorance, arrogance, "big populous country" syndrome Awhere there's a wide variety of things to do without leaving the country, or even the state in a lot of cases. And good old xenophobia. Going to places like SEA or South America is viewed with suspicion, like "it's 'dangerous' to go there so you must be up to no good." And most americans are slaves to their jobs and consoomerism. Euros value experiences, Americans like having stuff. This is especially true among lower class Americans. Most people buy the nicest car they can afford, rather than a less expensive car to save money. This isn't even an argument about car dependency, poor Americans will buy a $60k SUV or truck but never leave their state and never take time off work. Euros will drive a basic VW Golf or something but its very important to them to spend a month in Cyprus or somewhere every year.
>poor Americans will buy a $60k SUV or truck but never leave their state and never take time off work.
Absolutely true. I live in a red state and it's unbelievable the amount of rednecks on the verge of bankruptcy sporting brand new Ford F150s.
They don't even have any time to drive the thing because they live to work. And they're all obsessed with slaving away for companies that don't give a damn about them.
>Euros will drive a basic VW Golf or something but its very important to them to spend a month in Cyprus or somewhere every year.
Literally me. I feel like I was born with a European spirit. I have nothing in common with most Americans. Only to leave and find out I was the normal one all along.
I never understood how my fellow burgers cope with living here, unless you were born with upper middle class parents life here is extremely difficult. At least if you are a europoor you can live frugally and frick off somewhere for a month with paid vacation, I basically work to travel anyway and get out of this pussy prison. And on top of that your family probably lives in a city with some semblance of a social life and walkable neigborhood, for most Americans that is luxery they have to pay 2k+ a month to live on their own
I can buy a house with a decent paying job
I work remotely where as most every european I know in tech is back into an office at least 2 weeks a month
Rent in my area is about 650 for a 600sqft 1 br apartment in a decent area with a metro pop of about 300k
Property tax is virtually nothing for a 3 br / 2 ba ~185k home
Crime is low because I don't live in a coastal hell hole city
Cost of living is stupidly low in the midwest, flights around the country are cheap
>At least if you are a europoor you can live frugally and frick off somewhere for a month with paid vacation
lol, you must not know many europeans then.
Vegas has a bunch, most nightclubs have a separate area to smoke in. Though caring about smoking is stupid lmao who smokes.
Flyover coper, no one wants to move into some midsized mutt city with a population of 70% 40+ year olds and overweight foids with absolutely nothing to do in their 20s or 30s kek. Why do you homosexuals even come on this board
kys
After taxes and health insurance I only make 2300 a month. Not everyone just has a spare 3k a month, in fact most people do not.
The gross median income in America is not even $3k. It’s about $2.5k. After taxes. 50% of the country is making $2k or less after taxes. At least $1k goes right out the door to rent or mortgage payments and another $.5k per month on food and groceries. 50% of Americans have less than $500 per month to spend on everything other than food and shelter.
>The gross median income in America is not even $3k. It’s about $2.5k. After taxes. 50% of the country is making $2k or less after taxes. At least $1k goes right out the door to rent or mortgage payments and another $.5k per month on food and groceries. 50% of Americans have less than $500 per month to spend on everything other than food and shelter.
Chat is this true?
Aye, it be truthful.
i see you. good post
Maybe in Mississippi, kek. $2500/month is the base after-tax starting salary for a full-time worker where I was working in Colorado.
>full-time
Therein lies the rub…
>many Americans have less than two weeks a year of time off from work, that employers are hesitant to give.
This is a bigger reason imo; even with low wages, a single guy with no family or mortgage could save money to travel. However, that 10 days of PTO is often both vacation AND sick leave in the same pool, and it can be denied due to business needs unless it oversteps a legal boundary like FMLA.
Some people quit their jobs to travel with money they saved up.
Money. Americans don’t have cash on hand and those that do don’t have the time, or the desire.
Are you living in 40 years ago? God foreigners are fricking stupid.
most of the world isn't worth visiting. staying in the USA is better than traveling to 90% of Europe, 90% of Asia, 100% of Africa and 100% of South America
if this isn't a sly "frick off we're full" thing I feel sorry for you
no it's not. Why would I want to go to some shithole and be harrassed by brown thirdworld scum when we can stay in the #1 country on Earth. America has beaches, mountains, deserts, glaciers, etc. etc. without shitskins bug people everywhere
beautiful Europe
Do /misc/cels really believe europe is everywhere like that ?
I mean with that logic I can post a picture of Baltimore and say why would you leave in the US when it's 99% black people.
Of course there are some places in London or basically any country in Europe that are almost non recognisable, but it's fricking easy to avoid them. You'd be even really unlucky to step into them.
What are you doing on the SighSee board ?
Also there are people from all over the world visiting many parts of the US.
I was in Raleigh NC recently and the hostel was full of euros.
Do you think no one from abroad goes in Seatle, Austin, Orlando, Atlanta, Philadelhia etc ?
Allow me to make sense of all this for you. You people don't live up to your own hype. You fail miserably at doing so, which primes visitors for disappointment and makes it less worthwhile to burn thousands of dollars and days of travel time to visit.
>Also there are people from all over the world visiting many parts of the US.
Point is that most people regardless of nationality stick domestic you room temp IQ poster.
Burgers visit europe
Euros visit Burgerstan
Though the vast majority of people are not going to cross the oceans just to go on their holiday.
I get this is mostly bait but,
Mostly because the whole "take 8-12 hours on just a flight" alone is the cause. Most aren't wanting to do the whole waste an entire day of travel simply to fly abroad for the sake of ??? it's nice to do a few times here and there but seriously it's like asking euros, "Why do you not drive the Route 66 or just explore the US more than just Miami, NYC, LA or Vegas? Like only once?"
Most people I know will just drive somewhere or fly domestic, or to canada/mexico. I can hop on a 300 dollar flight be in Cancun in ~4.5 hours or the Bahamas in 6~, I could also be in alaska in ~7.
>BUT MUH VISITED COUNTRY LIST
Who cares lmao.
pretty much this. also having responsibilities in America. Why pay for rent for a month if I'm just going to be abroad anyway? If I get 2 weeks of vacation a year to go somewhere worth using it like Japan, SEA, or a decent country in Europe would be $1500+ on just flights alone, then you have to actually be on the flight for 8-16 hours each way.
We lived in Europe for years and once we were acutally over there we went to a ton of countries because they were all close to each other and we could get round trip flights for $50 or take trains/buses. Same as when we lived in the US we went to 45 states. No way in hell would I have been to 45 states if I had to pay to fly back and forth from Europe each time.
>fly to mexico
>get beaches climate aztec shit and money goes pretty far
>people can often speak english+spanish so getting around isn't an issue
>flight time is usually under 8 hours total
>around 400-500 round trip flight
>fly to canada
>money is monopoly toys
>can go do everything on each side of it since nothing is in the middle
>could drive if I felt like it, but good views of the mountains, nature, and stuff
>around 300-400 round trip
>Cruise or flight to Bahamas for a week or so
>tropical paradise
>money spends unrivaled to the Euro, cheap everything even if it is a knock off it's good
>bunch of colonial history, great food, super easy to get to
>cheap from virtually every airport
>decide to try asia
>direct flight from all major airports surprisingly decently priced
>money spends like nothing else
>basically free waved with US passport
>have a blast the entire time rarely ever haggled
>flying back means I get a day back with the international date line with my travels, if lucky a day in hawaii for layover
>800-1200 but offset by hotel costs
(1/2)
>Bahamas
>cheap
what the frick? Shit was outrageously expensive last I checked even more expensive than USA
>what the frick? Shit was outrageously expensive last I checked even more expensive than USA
You can literally fly into Miami with frontier for dirt cheap and get a 7 or 10 day cruise for under 600
I was lazy and found a 11 night on google, but I am sure if you looked for more than 2 minutes there are better deals. This is literally why americans don't travel to "the rest of the world" aka just Europe to most the internet.
>paying to be amongst a bunch of crusty old boomers
>even worse... They're americans
Okay? are you ESL? My point was that as an american, a cruise for 2 people can be <600 for 11 days as seen there in the post you replied to. That means all I need to do is just pay for a flight+cruise and my hotel and shit is done to see the gulf.
Try to compare that to 11 days in Europe for the same ~1100-1200 dollar budget for 2.
>Try to compare that to 11 days in Europe for the same ~1100-1200 dollar budget for 2.
Coming from the USA*
>budget for 2.
There's your problem. Ditch the hole and see Europe for real. Nobody to hold you back from seeing the non-touristy places and stopping for a fricking selfie.
Okay that's cool to say online and all but again OP's question is literally why don't people from america do X. It's because travel within the USA and surrounding countries is so damn cheap that it's really not on the top of the list for most.
>Nobody to hold you back from seeing the non-touristy places and stopping for a fricking selfie.
This is great to say but again, you are burning at least 2 days simply getting to and from Europe as an American. That's traveling only and I haven't gotten to airline costs. After you get to a "main place" you have to either get a car or beg the trains to not go on strike that week because ~reasons~ or the bus to not be filled with migrants so you can't get on, hell might not even show up if you booked flix! It's not time effective given the fact you lost at least 2, if not 3 days traveling to Europe, to do so unless you know exactly where it is.
This is like going LOL holy shit you went to LA and didn't go to Big Bear lake for peak comfy? LMAO don't you know that exists? pfft fricking morons! I bet you wanted to see hollywood lol.
Renting a car is stupid because your vacation will just be doubled in price. So where is the places you suggest? As someone who's done rural Germany, Belgium, Finland, and Norway; for extended stays. I gotta ask where you are talking about that the average person taking a 2-3 week vacation suppose to go without blowing up the bank just to go to "ohh quaint town in the alps!".
Not OP
I have consistaly found <$400 flights out of Texas to Mexico, Central America, the Carribbean and Colombia; Also Lima. That's great, but I want Europe. I used to lived there and want to visit for a month or so. I have yet to find a cheap flight.
Deutsche Bahn train tickets have skyrocketed in price since I was there.
*consistently
Okay?
Not sure what you are saying, I was explaining that the reason most americans don't go to europe is because it's cost prohibitive and inefficient on time given vacation time for most Americans being 2-4 weeks.
> I have yet to find a cheap flight.
This is my whole point to OP... My point was spending 1100-1200 for 2 people for a flight and 11 or so day cruise when in the US compared to that of flight to EU+hotel+car+expenses+planning; is just unappealing to many.
I'm lost as to what you are asking? I'm not saying america is cheap to europeans, I am saying that crossing the atlantic is a barrier that usually turns both sides off to just constantly visiting.
>Germany, Belgium, Finland, and Norway
All four extremely expensive and rich countries. The entirety of Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean lays before you and you're talking about "quaint towns" in Switzerland. You might be moronic.
>That's great, but I want Europe. I used to lived there and want to visit for a month or so. I have yet to find a cheap flight.
And again, what the frick are you on about? Google flights can quote me dozens of different options below $400 and many round trip. I think you're just moronic
Enjoy your plastic cruises.
>And again, what the frick are you on about? Google flights can quote me dozens of different options below $400 and many round trip. I think you're just moronic
Post pics round trip from US->Europe for sub 400
not that anon but you can certainly find flights from new york to london or paris for about that price if you're prepared to book far enough ahead and accept some fairly basic conditions- no check-in luggage, no assigned seating etc. google shows round-trip flights from JFK to CDG for around $410 in april, for example
Cheapest I see is ~450 for the most basic round trip to LHR, but you have to basically assume you live in NY or right by Newark airport to get that deal, anywhere else and your fricked.
The point being made here still stands though as to what people are saying.
Taking a cheap domestic flight to Miami or some port with a cruise is cheap as hell, Denver to Miami on frontier round trip is like maybe 100-120 bucks if you want extra bags on frontier. Then you got your cruise for <600 bucks that's your hotel, all in all a 2 week vacation is costing you and your +1, less than 1000 to see a few places.
Pic is the cheapest non layover hell to london from denver, 685 for 1 person x2 let's just call it 1400
Hotels are going to run ~100/night unless you want to live in a pajeet village x100 1100
Then you have to also add on the train tickets to get around the country that might go on strike or something again who knows but 100 should get you around most places for the stay
You're looking at the following and this is how people see it
2700 minimum for 11 nights in London or 1100 for 11 nights around Caribbean and mexico.
Domestic travel is stupid cheap which is why most people on both sides of the water often stick to shit closer and more economical.
>wahh my flyover city doesnt have cheap direct flghts wahh
stay home homosexual
>why don't they go overseas?
The excessive cost and time investment needed for a good portion of the country. If you're not in the coasts or Chicago, you need to spend an entire 2 days basically getting somewhere because you need to spend several hours making it to a coastal airport to then go on a long haul flight to your destination, and you have to do it again to make it home. It's also expensive if you need to leave from these places as opposed to flying out of the coasts. You brought up cancun for a reason, and that's because even for midwestereners, it's not that far and inaccessible.
Most Americans live in major population centers, which are expensive to live in. Sure, the dollar goes far abroad, but it doesn't make things cheap at home. You can fly out of Boston or NYC or Miami easily, but living in these places is going to slash most people's savings.
>you're ultra adventurous for having a passport
37% have a valid passport, 20% have an expired passport. It's not about being adventurous or not, it's a matter of "do you have the finances to do it, do you have the time to do it, and do you have the interest in doing it?" Almost 40% can actively afford and have the time and interest in going abroad and do so, another 20% have clearly gone before, but aren't renewing passports, meaning that they cannot afford or have the time to do so again. I'm in that boat right now, I love travel but I don't have the time right now. I'm jumping into my career fresh out of my graduate program, and it would frick me over to not bust ass the next two years, so I don't need a passport at all right now. I'm just fine with going to California or Utah's state parks this summer, and a trip to the coast for beaches this winter, especially because it only costs me 3 vacation days without affecting my career progression at all.
This is the perfect example of what I'm talking about. The flights and stays to Europe or Asia alone costs a full vacation in Mexico.
You can find plenty of flights from NYC to Madrid on off season for around 400 to 600
It is still incredibly costly to travel in the US with air compared to European options and on top of that no rail options either so you are already wasting a frick ton of time dealing with TSA and whatnot.
Spirit and frontier are stupid cheap to get around the country with. Never had a problem so long as I followed the baggage rules which are very similar to things like Ryanair.
>no rail options either so you are already
My city has amtrak
>frick ton of time dealing with TSA and whatnot.
If you fly so regularly you don't have TSA precheck or GE then lol. Also European airports can be equally as shit.
I think Ryanair has lower offers than you'd find around the US but idk how many euros actually pay that price. I feel like people on average are paying closer to US prices for travel. Prices for US airlines tend to be more consistent. Ryanair gives away crazy deals but a lot are off-season when few euros are traveling. Americans tend to take vacations over more of the year with the peak around Christmas, something Europe doesn't see as much of.
>spirit and frontier
Filled with joggers most of the time post covid and Ryan Air still mogs
>Amtrak
JFL not even going to address this one
>If you fly so regularly you don't have TSA precheck or GE then lol. Also European airports can be equally as shit.
The Laquisha at precheck doesnt even recognize it at peak time, most europoor airports esp in Med countries are way more lax
big bear bro?
>Okay? are you ESL?
You talk like a woman homosexual.
I got nothing to do with your shit. I was just insulting your choice of vacation.
>frontier
Carry on bags incur an additional $80. Each way. Checked luggage is around $120 per.
Damn, my bag and its contents are not even worth $120.
If you buy at the gate, if you're doing a small personal item it's free. Hell you could find cheap domestic american airlines flight
>Look at europe
>euro isn't that promising
>12-18hr total travel time+ time difference 1 way means I burn 2 days just getting there back and forth
>why does EVERY flight connect through LHR where Jeets run the stupid ass place and often frick shit up
>British airways or someone fricked up the layover again
>next flight in +12hrs because reasons
>decide to go to a pub
>it's OI U AMERICAN WOT U THINK BOUT TRUMP GUNS HEALTHCARE THING ON CCN
>killmenow.jpg
>everyone constantly asking me if I brought any cartons of cigs with me to visit at any CBP stop
>get to hotel check in guy in spain refuses to speak english but know some spanish from high school enough to check in, I guess spanish isn't "spainard spanish" even though it works in mexico and south america and gives me a roll eyes
>bed is fricking hard as a rock, do europoors really? Oh AC has a not on it to "please conserve energy the AC turns off when you leave" so it's always hot arriving back
>go get a beer it's warm okay whatever, it's supposedly cheap here... nope ~6 bucks same as back home
>next day go out Boomer french tourist that no one seems to talk about are on par with chinese tourists
>someone asking me to sign a form with kids around get vibes of scam all over it walk away she starts screaming at me
>every attraction is either filled with chinks, nogs selling things, or boomers from europe telling me how times have changed
>lol.wav
>do this or a few countries nogs/chinks/boomers clogging up everything
>decide to go to the country side buses and trains delayed out the ass but everyone just accepts it in autistic german fashion
>scandi's outside fin's too autistic to complain about it
>every "picture perfect spot" feels like a theme park ride even if outside a tour group
>rinse and repeat every time I visit
>only stick around to use some vacation days after I am done with work there
It's good if Americans don't leave their containments zones.
>be low value male (incel)
>moves to shithole
>why don’t more of my countrymen just lower their standards and wallow in filth like I do?
There's nothing outside of the US I want to see. The rest of the world is a shithole full of the proudest shitholers
To and from USA is by far the most expensive flights in the world. We are so far removed from everything. We don't get the luxury of $200-$400 flights. Unless we want to fly on some shit airline in the dog pound, we are forking out $1000 per ticket to go anywhere decent.
Flights are freaking expensive. I want to go back to Europe. 90% of flights are $800+. I want to see East Asia, flights are $1000+. I want to visit South America, same story. Colombia is the only exception. My new passport has no stamps and that is very sad.
>America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist
honestly, im at poland right now. Was previously on oslo.
Honest advice, dont bother. Smoking and drinking is illegal here and locals dont speak english so im just incredibly bored. You cant even smoke in nightclub, which is moronic.
Only advice i got is never come to poland but Italys kinda nice, same for Greece. I will probably check Auswitchz and work my ass off here, but thats it.
Where are you where it's illegal? I was friendly with a Russian exchange-student who did an EuroRail trip at some point, and he told me to visit Poland and Hamburg to get fricked on booze. Hamburg certainly didn't disappoint.
Where the frick can you smoke in a nighclub in America? If anything muttmerica has 10x the cucked laws regarding this sort of degeneracy (illegal prostitution, can't drink a can of beer in public, alot of states nighclubs close at 2 or cant buy liquor past a certain time, etc)
Here's another example of why Americans might not want to travel to europe all the time. Who the frick wants to pay thousands of dollars and cross an ocean to be surrounded by these morons?
Keep coping Cleatus, nothing I said was wrong
Nobody, especially nobody who has actually done a significant amount of traveling, is at all moved by your moronic, pedestrian european opinions, not a soul
a better question is, why would you want them to? 90% of americans are destructive, corrupting subhuman morons incapable of thought, and of the remaining 10% who could be considered thinking human beings, the ones who can actually afford to regularly travel abroad ae far too elitist and aloof to be worth spending any time around
But enough about europeans
Anything cool is a 12+ hour flight from here.
We generally can afford a weeks vacation. I don't want to spend 2 days traveling, and 2 days jet lagged to shit.
i'm an American that made less than 20k a year when I started journeying. Been more places than anyone I know here in the Midwest. Most Europoors too. Just bought a 5 bedroom 3 bathroom house with a big yard for 330k. Still plan on going to China this year. My secret? Having a prefrontal cortex.
>5 bedroom
You got a spouse nearly doubling your income?
First, USA regularly comes in near the top of tourist arrival stats for most of the world.
Second, "Live like a king" is an inaccurate meme. Kings don't sleep in rental rooms, ride in taxis or eat at restaurants.
Third, not everyone craves luxury pampering, and many Americans prefer rural tourism to visiting major cities. The American homeowner with a spacious yard and a pickup truck can live like a king on his own property, drive where he pleases and buy whatever food he wants to eat. With a camper trailer, he has an entire nation open to exploration on his timetable. Why deal with the ordeal of air travel and leaving all the comforts of home behind, dealing with foreign languages and eating unknown foods?
Fourth, I'm very gay and pompous, my homosexuality spews through the screen like a venomous goo
NTA but if you saw that post as pompous you are very insecure.
NTA but am that anon
This post encapsulates this anon's
point, most burgers are perfectly fine consuming goyslop on their plot of land with their f150 with absolutely nothing to do in their surrounding area kek
>Why deal with the ordeal of air travel and leaving all the comforts of home behind, dealing with foreign languages and eating unknown foods?
For the experience?
Why are you on this board?
>People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth
Where is this even true anymore? It sure as shit isn't "90% of the earth"
I don't know about living like a king but if you are an American who isnt a flyover or rural coper you can live significantly lower your COL with the same salary and cities like CDMX, Sevilla, Bangkok, etc
Lots of stigma against living abroad as a white american male, you can get attacked by simps if you ever come back to the US. They claim that it’s because you’re colonizing and exploiting women. In reality they’re upset that you’re not performing the time honored role of buxxing a landwhale.
Literally no one cares about this besides a few terminally online roasties and onions boys, most le sexpat destinations are frequented by normies now anyway
You say this but I've seen very few even expats while overseas. I honestly think most people can't afford to go anywhere longer than 2 weeks, or sustainably digital nomad unless they live in basically a 15 dollar per night hostel somewhere. Basically, I'm saying most people are lying about their travels online. Most passport bros just go to the carribbean I think.
I guess I might post about it if I decide to go to the carribbean. Personally I like asia because I'm white and stick out everywhere. Don't wanna stick out in the wrong place.
1. It’s really fricking expensive to cross an ocean from America
2. We can travel within our own country and find different climates and cultures
3. We have literally everything in America except really old buildings
We cant afford it
We literally don't have a lot of time off to be able to do that. 99% of employers are extremely reluctant to give any time off and we barely have any national holidays (a least we get MLK day now!!!). Also, there's this culture of making employees feel bad if they take time off, and everyone is scared to be replaced at the moment.
SighSee tier bait.
This, most europoors who come through hawaii are only there for their 20's gap on their parents money to "see the USA" before a job, the other handful are newly weds who get a huge culture shock by the homeless problem
Your misery radiates through the screen.
Euros mostly only go overseas to "lads holidays" or boomer resorts in cheap poor mediterranean countries. If Germans and Brits and Dutch had warm weather and good beaches in their own countries they'd never leave either.
Bruh you know you can reply to more than one person per post right? Put the keyboard down for a sec and go take your meds lmao.
>People on peasant-wages here can live like a king in 90% of the Earth,
Most flights cost 1+months wages and involve dealing with airlines/airports/TSA.
Where to go? I like weed and shrooms and good weather. I find Asians to be bug people . I am blue eyed.
I work in tech, and moving literally anywhere else would mean cutting my income by over 50%. The closest country is Switzerland which is more expensive than most places, so taking that much of a paycut is just silly.
I would like to retire overseas, but that comes with its own challenges since visas are easier to get when you're young and willing to work.
just get a remote job and immigrate illegally, bro
I just haven't gotten around to it yet
I'll tell you what I told my posh African-British geopolitics professor in college, America is big. There is plenty to see without ever having a passport.
As a kid, the yearly family vacation was typically to a waterpark/resort (2.5 hr. drive); a cabin in the woods (4.5 hr. drive); a short drive to the tallest building in the world; and on rare occasions flights to California, Florida, or the grandparents out in the Rocky Mountains... we don't exactly need to live our lives like serfs if we don't leave the country.
I think it’s comfortability.
You can live a super comfy life in America if you live in the right place. Especially if you’re family oriented that basically cements the lack of desire to travel.
Me personally, even if I travel, I don’t want it to be some kind of minefield. I want to be comfy
Americans wander about overseas because we have nothing keeping us in America. We don't buy round-trip tickets either.
It's sure as hell better to be living on $880/month in Thailand than it is to be living on $880/month in a van in Arizona. My flight costs for this winter in SEA average $320/month. That's roughly 35% of expenses. But this is only doable because I have no life in America, so I am OK with hanging out in SEA doing nothing for months at a time.
Yes, I want to return to springtime America and drive my old van around the Ozark hills and Allegheny ridges until it breaks down. It's comfy living in Southeast Asian cities, but nothing at all like the freedom of being high and cruising back roads in the middle of nowhere under the warm sunshine.
Once I hit the road, I will be stuck with my van. So I will drive it into the ground, sell it to a redneck for $300, then GTFO of America, because the country is no place to be without a car. Finances should be good until spring 2025, the start of summer seasonal employment. Maybe I'll work in a fish cannery in Alaska with a bunch of Filipinos.
6 months USA/6 months abroad: the dream
I had a trip overseas pretty much lined up. New passport. Had to use vacation days or they'd expire. And what happened? I ended up not going. Was too scared. I've never gone through an airport, and don't know what to expect. I haven't even left my state, let alone my country. I got overwhelmed thinking of what I need to bring, what I shouldn't bring, a potential language barrier, potential criminals, figuring out the logistics of tourism. It was too much and I just ended up stalling out the clock. My vacation starts next week and I'll be spending it at home.
Spoken like someone with a weak passport.
Seeth
You must not have been to Paris or Rome then
half of us are too poor for expensive vacations
If someone handed me a remote job making 2k a month I would be gone tomorrow, but I’m too lazy to figure out how to get a remote jog and I’m definitely not learning how to code
im living your dream and would advice to stay home, dealing with third world shitheads isnt worth it. Even now theres some moronic b***h in the dorms who came in sick and i wish shed drop dead.
>anywhere except hawaii and cancun
In the last 4 months all but two people I know who left the country all went to Puerto Vallarta. Checkmate moron.
>>Why don't more Americans go overseas?
I get 3 weeks of vacation per year and you can only take 1 week at a time.
>America literally has the most powerful currency to ever exist
Holy moron