Why has the airline industry killed Direct Flights,has it always been like this

See examples below: forced stopovers

I realized this while looking for a trip to japan. previously i had gotten a regular flight in 2019 for about 500 dollars no issue, now those flights still exist but only when using the hidden city trick or in most cases you are blocked off because its the 2nd leg of a journey which would be cancelled,

What gives has it always been like this for has ti gotten way worse, and yes someone will say "just don't be poor" but thats not the point. i could see if it was a little higher but in many cases its at least 4x, you cant even get a direct flght from tokyo to the US for less than 1200 unless its hidden cities where it can be like 400, all this leads to is empty seats, this has got to be sign of recession beacuse a lot less people are likely to travel, or seats of left empty by savvy travelers, clown world

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    say im in japan trying to get home compare these

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    same flight, either have to waste time going to manilla, and successive leg would be canclled

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    2 flights for 380

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    same flight 2k, sometimes this works in your favor but in most cases it wont, i know this isnt a new discovery but this cant be a good sign

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're comparing the same flight in two different contexts:
    One is a flight on the Tokyo - New York route, obviously this one is well in demand.
    The other is a flight on the Manila - New York route that has to be discounted because it's not even a direct flight, let alone the overnight layover.

    If you can exploit this kind of arbitrage for your gain, go for it, there's nothing illegal/immoral about it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      thank you I understand this is just an example you are correct, there are many similar instances to this, of course if able to exploit that is good, but in majority of instances i question if this is good for anybody including the companies which attempt to profit off this, im sure there are advanced metrics they use but its to the point where it no longer makes sense given the amount turned away, the industry had a huge boom but think its going to shrivel with practices like this

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >its to the point where it no longer makes sense given the amount turned away, the industry had a huge boom but think its going to shrivel with practices like this
        Everytime someone says that, it only ever gets worse. The fact of the matter is that they're the only ones offering this service and if you don't like their garbage, price-hiked, strictly worse than before proposal, you don't get to do it ever again. If you give up your hobby, the gay who didn't will still overpay enough to cover for you and three others. This extreme-milking process is happening to all sorts of products, be it cars, computers, video games, kitchen appliances or flights. You vill be happy anyways, because it's not like you have any other options beyond living in a cave.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          All my hobbies are becoming more and more expensive while my salary is stuck at a soft ceiling in my industry. I thought my thirties are supposed to by the most fun years of my life.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Milking
          Most of the people on that Tokyo - New York flight bought their tickets long in advance.

          They put up collateral that the airline can earn interest on so they got a better price.

          OP is the one trying to milk the system by booking last minute.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            787 bro, you do see that the other connections are around the same time, right?
            You made a fair point about booking in advance, but that's not the topic here.
            Airlines want to squeeze out direct travelers but are facing competition for transfer passengers.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'll admit the descrepancy is pretty big. I doubt you earn miles if you skip the last leg.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I booked some flights 7 months in advance between London and Seoul and I was honestly kinda stunned it was half booked already on the seat plan

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              You may be surprised that the seat plan shown to you doesn't really reflect the actual booking conditions, otherwise airlines would not be able to oversell flights.
              Likely, they locked some blocks of rows for tour groups and other bulk purchasers or they reserved it themselves to switch to a smaller plane without issues if there isn't enough demand.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I thought it might be the case but it doesn't really look like it on the plan (the plan just looks more or less what you would see on a seat plan a couple of days out, i.e. most of the front is booked up with a couple of spots next to other people still free, the more expensive preferred seats mostly free, etc) and it's not a flight offered as a codeshare. It's not really a common tour or holiday destination from the UK

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You do know that there are inbound tours to Bongistan as well, right?

                Are you only searching Haneda flights not NRT?

                >not searching TYO

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if the big discounts for layover flights are part of a scheme to drive airport revenue by forcing people to spend time in airports? I wouldn't put it past them. Personally I prefer multi-city tickets. If my plane flies to an intermediate destination, why not spend a week or a month there?

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the website that you are using to find hidden city flights OP?

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fly business so I don't mind layovers as long as the booze keeps flowing in the lounge

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you only searching Haneda flights not NRT?

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    i had no problem finding a direct flight to tokyo from dfw
    op is a moron

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    but what if
    > you will own nothing and you will be happy
    seriously looks to me like the industry is committing sepuku for ESG
    >exploit all the hacks you can anon there might not be an industry in 5 years.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's so you spend money on getting drunk during layovers

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >layover
      yeah I am not a normie

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    probably has more to do with climate measures getting stricter plus not as many people working at airports and airlines leading them to cut back on routes and jack up prices.
    There's a definitely a recession on the horizon if it isn't here already, people at my work are getting laid off and it's the same at all the places my friends work. And it's probably hitting the airlines first.

    Get your travel in now, once gas prices skyrocket it's going to be impossible to fly over the pacific for <4,000 USD economy

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