As a couple, how do you save money while traveling? How do you do "real travel" instead of constantly adhering to tourist traps for her safety or to satiate her worries? How do you prevent one partner from getting tired or homesick? How do you deal with the need for compromise, if it happens?
Context: My gf hasn't been around much and I've been around Europe, the US and Japan before, alone. We'd go anywhere besides Africa, MENA and south Asia, but she'd like to go to Iceland and Ireland, preferrably during cold seasons (also when there are few tourists), but these countries tend to be quite expensive in terms of accomodation, especially since I absolutely will not have her dorm in a hostel. One solution seems to be wild camping through Scandinavia but we don't know much about it. We'd also go to Japan and maybe France/Italy, which I know how to make cheap. Otherwise, we're not sure. Recommendations would be great!
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Scotland allows wild camping in lots of places and does have the right to roam. Also lots of camping sites if you need to shower once in a while.
> tired or homesick?
Is she a wittle baby missing her mommy?
>How do you deal with the need for compromise, if it happens?
Like what? Usually you compromise doing something both enjoy, or do thing one enjoys and then another time whatever the other enjoys. I wanted beaches, my ex wanted a colder place, so the compromise was Ireland.
>or you will die in 7 days
thank you, magic spinning nugget
I've been married for 8 years and with my wife for 13. How do you deal with the need for compromise? You just do, I don't know what you're looking for here but either a place that mostly satisfies what you both want, or you do a bit of what each person wants. You can also take separate trips but this doesn't sound like either of you want that.
Reading between the lines from experience, it seems like you're trying to say that you can't afford what she wants to do and that's understandable if those are expensive places. You need to communicate this better between yourselves and either a) your compromise will come from this understanding or b) you can't find any compromise, in which case good luck for the future.
>I absolutely will not have her dorm in a hostel
This is fricked up though, real weirdo behaviour.
>This is fricked up though, real weirdo behaviour.
Hardly, you are just judgemental. Fricked up and real weirdo behaviour would be kidnapping a kid while traveling and then bury the kid alive.
Lmao how are you a real person who genuinely says things like this with conviction lmfao
What's the issue? I don't think I said anything crazy but now I'm curious
Swap hookers every few days and risk low level stds like a real man you fricking domesticated little homosexual
Do you have to spread your butthole and fart silently off the side of the bed when you’re at the hotel with your wife?
I deal with it by having a gf who's an absolute cheapskate, who doesn't mind discomfort and who doesn't care much about the location.
I'm not sure what answers you expect beyond talking it through like adults and going on a short trip to test if it's even feasible. Just do that week or two in France/Italy and see if you don't end up strangling each other.
You want to 'wild camp' in Scandinavian, Irish and Icelandic winters? Are you fricken moronic?
I imagine hotels will be cheap that time of year
>Eastern Europe
>Cheap
>Lack of nogs and tourists
>Friendly people
>Good times, food, and drinks
It's screaming out at you lol. You claim to want to avoid tourist traps but the destinations you mentioned are quite literally tourist traps on a national scale.
However, depending on how much say she has for the plans, she would either hate EE altogether or only want to go to expensive parts like Crotia ("ree we need to see GoT place") and Slovenia ("oh we're so close to Italy, let's just go"). I am assuming things, maybe she is cool and would be interested. I have just noticed a general aversion with women to traveling to eastern europe, particularly women who haven't been around western Europe much. They don't give a shit about comfy and meaningful, Becky got an eiffel tower pic, so I need to get one too! REEEE!
You get the idea.
>she'd like to go to Iceland and Ireland, preferrably during cold seasons (also when there are few tourists)
Assuming she actually enjoys that shit, you need to ring that girl up ASAP.
Wild camping could be viable in Iceland, but if you consider it make sure you do a trial run near where you both live so you know that your equipment can take the cold.
>especially since I absolutely will not have her dorm in a hostel
Why? Private rooms exist and they're usually cheaper than hotels. Although if you want something fancier, especially in Ireland, you could rent a room at a BnB and have a cozy Irish breakfast with a nice Irish coffee to start the days!
BnB yes. That's very cozy. But for private rooms at hostels, you still have to share bathrooms. Also it's not a bunch of cute young hot fun people (whites and white adjacent) it's a bunch of stinky pajeets who are used to sleeping cramped anyway. Yeah good luck sharing any common space with Rajesh and Anisha
If you're somewhere remote enough you probably won't have to worry about Indians. The few that would go out that far are probably third gen British Indians who are nothing like the current shitters coming here from Punjab and Mumbai right now.
that is true. More rural, less jeets. Simple as.
>ring her up ASAP
This would pretty much be our honeymoon so yup
>wild camping in Iceland
Yeah, we should do a trial run. I'm honestly quite scared to wild camp in Iceland due to it's remoteness - I was moreso planning on maybe the coast of Norway in fall/spring, but I'm open to anything, including Iceland, Sweden or Scotland.
>private rooms at a hostel
I pretty much consider those hotels given the small difference in price in most countries, but I'd be open to it nonetheless.
>hostel aversion
I love them for solo travel, but I'd like to frick my gf.
>Pyrenees and Scotland
Any stories? Pyrenees sound awesome, didn't think about there. Also wondered if the Carpathians but no one talks about those lol
>Southeast Asia
Honest question, is there literally anything to do there as a couple besides hookers and blow? We like the cold and dislike the color brown so we'd need a good reason
>Eastern Europe
We don't drink, hate people and want to see good nature. True that we're interested in the plains of Ukraine but not in this decade, and I just don't hear much good about the rest of EE for nature. Maybe would do parts of the Balkans or Romania.
Also we met on SighSee so she sees this thread too, says hi
Not trying to start an argument, just really curious about why you find the idea of staying in a hostel so repellent.
Wild camping is a great option; besides Scandinavia I've done it with my sweetie in the Pyrenees and Scotland. The money you save on hotels you can spend on wine and chorizo to enjoy while watching the sunset.
Also stop being a fricking wuss and take her to southeast Asia.
I can’t decide if anything in this thread is serious, but here’s my take as an old former backpacker who had to figure out how to travel with a gf some years back. Pulled it off; we’re now married and continue to travel together extremely regularly.
>As a couple, how do you save money while traveling? How do you do "real travel" instead of constantly adhering to tourist traps for her safety or to satiate her worries?
Has she actually expressed worries? Does she display an attraction to things you consider tourist traps? Or are you preemptively imagining these roadblocks?
My one and only tried and true method for ‘real travel’ that satisfies a woman’s needs is simple as hell: Choose slightly more expensive/better accommodations than you would if you were going alone. Then do whatever you were hoping to do anyway. My first trip with my now-wife, we were tromping around Northeastern Thailand, visiting places I’d lived, worked, and been before. She was miserable in $6/night bare concrete cells, so we went across the street to a $16/night place with air conditioning and fresh paint. We didn’t go to the most expensive possible places, we just went one notch, maybe two notches higher.
It’s especially easy in Southeast Asia, of course, where international-standard-decent accommodations are easy to find starting quite cheap. But as long as you don’t pick the very cheapest option, you’ve got a good shot at landing somewhere you both like.
>How do you prevent one partner from getting tired or homesick?
This isn’t actually a gender thing in my experience. But you do it the same way you do it when anyone else gets tired or homesick. You consume home-country media, call someone at home and notice how jealous they are, and maybe skip one day’s planned whatever.
>How do you deal with the need for compromise
Me: itinerary. Her: Rooms. But forget travel, your relationship is doomed period if you can’t figure out compromise.
>This isn’t actually a gender thing in my experience.
Me in reaction to this entire thread.
I happen to have traveled a lot ever since I was a kid, I still travel a lot. I've slept in parks and forests for free, I've slept in $1000/night hotels (not $10000/night ones, though). I have friends from a lot of different socioeconomic backgrounds, I have had boyfriends from very different backgrounds compared to myself as well.
My two cents is the only way to make situations like OP's work is transparency. No, I am not saying it WILL work. It might still be all shit and you might still end up hating each other's travel styles. But if you don't communicate your limits, needs, wishes, preferences, and if you do not listen to the other's limits, needs, wishes, preferences it will 100% be a disaster.
The way we make it work is every single time before traveling we *gasp* tell each other how much money and time we can/are willing to spend on a trip. And then we mostly stick to that. Cheaper is always okay, but if we drag each other into more expensive shit, it's typically the person insisting on paying for expensive shit that pays for that specific thing. Because of the transparency it just works.
When I was younger I still had disastrous trips with eg. boyfriends who were not only inexperienced travelers, but would lie a lot about travel preferences (true story). If you are young and still can't read people well, it could be part of life for some trips to become hell. Then you eventually (hopefully) learn your preferences in people.