I'm a junior in college who has been dating a transfer student for the past month. She just left for Japan and we both want to continue our relationship. I'm majoring in business supply chain. I will travel to Japan in December to stay with her but after that I don't know how to go back to Japan. Is it easy for a gajin to get a business job in Japan?
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>Moving across the world just for a woman.
Don´t do it if you don´t love the country you´re moving to, anon. If she dumps you you will be stuck in a country you don´t care for and where you don´t even speak the local language. Then what? If you do love the country and already know at least some Japanese go for it but have your own goals too. Don´t hitch your entire life´s trajectory to a woman you barely know
I barely know her yes, but I know the language and we both mutually want to continue the relationship. She said she will wait for me and I will see her this December
>She said she will wait for me and I will see her this December
Shes fricking other guys until you arrive. Imagine some rando on holiday meeting her on Bumble and pounder her pussy while her phone vibrates from a message you sent to her on instagram.
she is sleeping with other men. japaneses dont consider that cheating, she will lie to you about it but will assume you sort of know and should be okay with it. dont ask dont tell
Do not ignore this tidbit anon. I have worked with and befriended at least 5 different Japanese people that have been deep within their culture or affected by family that say the same thing.
Honestly, you can YouTube educational videos about the don't ask don't tell of cheating in Japan. One of the things that influences this wide held belief is that once a kid has made their way between y'all, you 3+ will feel like such a family unit that you will be turned off by your wife or your wife turned off by you because you're seen more as the family unit (mother/father) than the attractive spousal unit from before. Oh, and the belief she won't leave you for another with more income is a universal thing, because it's a survival instinct and a want for life of comfort that drives these actions.
Please, if this falls on possible deaf ears such as OP, may another anon make use of this wisdom. Be ok with being cheated on in your way, ex: you cheat too. Or just don't date them. Japanese pussy/dick/relationship syndrome is what you'll experience like they experience Paris syndrome.
I want to believe she will remain loyal as she's back in Japan and we still text and call all day. She's really opened up with me that she hasn't had many relationships at all. Hopefully when I graduate I will have a good paying job and be able to provide for her. I did tell her if she finds someone else she should let me know to call it off.
>she is sleeping with other men.
She's getting choked, gagged and creampied by foreigner dicks as we speak. Japanese women who like to travel abroad are known for sampling the local dicks.
...and another eikaiwa/ALT is born!
Seriously though, you won't get a "business job" without near perfect Japanese or good connections, not without already having a residence visa. You might be able to get a visa teaching (if you're native English speaker) or working in IT (doubt it or you'd be doing it already) and then finangle your way into a "business job", but on the whole it's about as likely as moving to Hollywood to be a waiter in the hopes of being a famous actor.
My advice? Business supply work seems to be done remotely nowadays. Get a remote job if you can and alternate spending 3 months on, 3 months off, in Japan with your gf. If your relationship lasts a while as grown adults, maybe a spouse visa is in your future.
This anon's first sentence is the better advice though.
I'm hoping for a remote job, the only problem is if I get laid off then it could be hell. 3 months on and off seems like a good idea.
Recent college grad from the states here. Currently looking for remote business/ data analyst jobs to get on the digital nomad lifestyle. From what you've seen, do companies generally allow their remote workers to travel overseas on the job? Heard something from another anon that its a bit iffy when it comes to IT/ SWE jobs. Idk about business supply work/ business analyst
Japan is an easy country to love.
American mindset
That's my mindset. I just got a promising internship which will let me see her more and if it doesn't work I still like Japan.
>no anon don't go to the high trust society with sophisticated public infrastructure and a lack of self-hating anti-national popular culture
Would be better to just move there single with your buddies and take over one of the towns shriveling up
Your young anon. Explore the world, make mistakes, have some cool additions to your resume, get your heart broken. Apply for grad school if you want to look for work without being an English Teacher. Just put the degree on hold when you find work, or finish it through. More free time between lectures and “writing” your thesis, and likely better resources/location for job hunting compared to 60+ hour workweeks with literal children in バームファック Inaka
I'm only 20 but I genuinely want to spend my life with her. She felt the same as me. It's not everyday you get a girl texting you at 2am talking about how excited she is to cook for you tomorrow
You said you met this girl for one month, barely know her, and now want to spend your life with her. You’re so young, I don’t mean this to sound rude but this is incredibly naive behaviour but it’s a given at that age anyways. This just seems like a poor decision. There are millions of Japanese women too if that’s your thing.
Yeah it is naive. I've had multiple gf but she's the first one I've genuinely felt deep love in. We've spent so much time and got to learn so much about each other. We are both in pain at the thought of being apart and we both want to make it work. Realistically maybe I should move on but damn I just can't
There may be millions, but none are like her
It could happen, but take it from us older men that we all thought she was "the one" at 20. Usually marriages at that age as a man only happen because you and her went to high school together and your families get along. You're much more likely to have a better sense of who you belong with in your mid-late 20s as a man when the freshness of life starts to wear off and you start to realize what you actually love and hate.
That being said, only go to Japan if you have a stronger reason to go there than just her being "the one", since she will lose respect for you changing your life for just her.
t. did that shit in my late 20s like an idiot even though I gut feeling knew it wouldnt work out
I was already planning on going before I met her. She said I could stay with her and she just so happens to be living in Tokyo during winter (she's originally from Nagano). Yeah maybe I should think it through because as much as I want to be with her I love America for what it's worth. She will also visit the US in the summer so that's something
If you do go, which you probably will, I don't blame you, if I was you when I was that age I probably would have taken the risk since emotion is still superceding logic at this point, but for the love of God, enroll in a university as an exchange student or get in a Japanese language program before booking the ticket, have SOME PROFESSIONAL REASON for going to Japan other than going just for her.
I was already intending on going for personal travel with a friend (he's originally from there). I'm a junior and it is too late for study abroad.
ignore these cynics with terrible advice. I remember people in high school telling me to not chase after girls and instead focus on school, because i'll find them once I graduate from university and have a good paying job. long story short I am single and the dating pool is roasties, quite a downgrade from the quality of high school and first-year-college poon
The best thing to do is to get your gf pregnant - this will make it easier to get married and thus gain Japanese residency and citizenship.
I think when I see her in December, I will talk to her about moving. We are both hesitant to leave home but if we both get citizenships, it would be ideal.
>trying to get Japanese citizenship
Unless you're from an absolute shithole you're better off keeping your original citizenship and trying for PR status either by work or by marriage.
Oh so you can get permanant resident from marriage?
Your problem is you didn't get that relationship early on with the girls when they were there, the harsh reality we are cynically telling the 20 yr old is the fact that because they are already apart without much time between the two of them, she is probably doing her typical female nature to move on and forget her past.
Honestly anon, it is everyday this exact thing happens. It just doesn't happen to you, as should be the case given your age but mostly your life experiences up to this point.
So instead of saying don't do it. I say go for it, all out. But protect yourself and your heart.
You get to date a Japanese chick, at least for a bit. So entertain it, however, really sit down and think about the last 10 years of your life. Now multiply that by at least 4-5 given a healthy relationship. That's an extremely long time to be with someone when you don't fully know yourself
Did you know yourself when you were 10? Bet you thought you did, yet your desires still changed. Now imagine that with another. Who is also love struck with you at the moment. Will she change that 7 years down the road from making you food to yelling at you to get your ass up for work you're behind on bills so your living conditions are shit. Ooooor it very well could be the opposite and she's given you a free pass day because you got a solid promotion that changes y'all lives. No matter what turns out, protect your heart in the beginning. And the beginning when it comes to decades with a person can be seen as the first 7-10 years. Love her fully.
They're still young. They'll break up, he'll become a weeb sexpat in Japan. A tale old as time AKA Boundless Ryan.
This is a given. He needs to enjoy the ride anyway. He's going 150mph because he doesn't believe the road of life has curves. Frick it, let him enjoy the 150mph, we aren't passenger with him. He's going to survive the fiery wreck anyway, or pull the brakes just in time for the curve. Only time will tell.
I'm just enjoying my girlfriend bro
Thanks anon, some of the most realistic advice I got. I haven't know her for long to know how it's like to fight and disagree yet. I think instead of being a cuck doomer, you gave advice that I will ponder. Thanks
>It's not everyday you get a girl texting you at 2am talking about how excited she is to cook for you tomorrow
Anon, she had just finished getting creampied by Australian guy she met on Tinder. This is to reduce the guilt of cheating.
I thought this was common knowledge?
Nah she's from Nagano. Not many foreigners.
>I barely know her yes
>I'm only 20 but I genuinely want to spend my life with her
lmao holy frick
you're so innocent it's kind of cute
In still going to see her but I have wised up a bit since I made the thread. I started talking to another girl
>I have wised up a bit since I made the thread
>I started talking to another girl
You fricking DUMBASS
What happened to the true love you were preaching about? I sincerely hope it's not the OP
That's not me. We are still dating.
"dating"
cringe seeing kids "dating". go get a job before u consider "dating"
I literally have a job, a paid internship ship lined up and am at a university rn. Sorry man.
>a paid internship
So it's wrong to be working hard in college?
>working hard
>in 2023
Only for brainlets
a job where, mcdonalds? an internship is a joke. go graduate and work in the field a few years before u try chasing w*men. u are still a teenager
Kek, just hearty kek. We all have been there anon. I wanted to spend my life with my first gf when I was 17, then she cheated out of nowhere at some point. I'd honestly advise against any marriage before 30 if you're a man because you will have no time to actually enjoy life.
"It's not everyday you get a girl texting you at 2am talking about how excited she is to cook for you tomorrow", bro, cherish this girl, don't obsess, just value her for what she is worth. You don't get girls like this very often.
I was obsessed when I first made the thread because she just left. She is a wonderful soul and we are still dating. I really do appreciate her and all her little ways
>Is it easy for a gajin to get a business job in Japan?
Stop thinking like an employee - it's not the 90s anymore. Start a location independent business and look to getting a business manager visa.
just don't spam whiny blogposts here after she breaks up with you
use the general homosexual. we dont need a 45th japan thread. ogun thunderstrike a curse on all weebs and japan fetishizers.
1/3 of the people on this board want to go to japan
therefore 1/3 of the posts should be about japan
If you don't speak fluent Japanese, your best bet to get any type of business job is to be a financial consultant through an American contractor in Okinawa, and they will favor veterans.
Thanks for the advice
Japan will be a Chinese colony by 2050
Taiwan first tho
This is 100% going to end in a disaster and you will eventually realize people were right to tell you off.
welp I'm still young
Since this thread exists, I’ll ask.
How does one get an IT job in Japan?
yeah, I'm thinking of doing business or IT. remote jobs would be cool, too.
Have no idea. I have a couple years of experience at some well known companies and every Japanese place I interviewed at said no (at various stages so it's not like they looked at my resume and said no). I ended up having to take an offer that comes with a not so good reputation. And don't ask me about it because I'm still waiting on getting my work visa so I can't give you anything information about what it's actually like.
You apply for a job you are qualified for and hope someone notices your application, or you get in touch with headhunters, or someone in the company refers you. Ideally a company known for sponsoring visas.
Then you go through the entire interview process and hope that you pass.
t. applied for a job, got lucky and someone took notice, went through the interview, passed, and it's almost been a year since I moved here
Do you speak Japanese?
Initially no, and it isn't required for my job anyway, not to mention half my team are all across the globe so everyone defaults to English.
That said, I am studying and taking classes, and now I have no problems with casual conversations.
May I ask what type of job do you have and if it is remote or not?
No you may not 🙂
Tech, flex schedule, remote within the country only for tax/legal reasons.
Do you have a degree?
If you graduate from a top 100 university you can get a visa to find a job in japan. https://www.moj.go.jp/isa/applications/status/designatedactivities51.html
Damn I'm in a top 100. It's go time.
I didn't know they had a new visa. How long was this in the works for? Wondering if it could help gauge when they'll roll out the digital nomad visa.
>She just left for Japan and we both want to continue our relationship.
You DO know what's happening right now right? She's getting choked, slammed and spanked by some Chad she just met on Tinder. They had a quick drink at a bar, then they had bareback sex and he creampied her tight little pussy.
Why are posters here so graphic and oddly specific about their cuckolding fantasies?
It's not a cuckold fantasy (you fricking zoomie) it's the harsh reality of life.
Would love to have you as a sex pet, you naive but beautiful little soul. Would protect you to consume you, but yet keep you plump.
Coomers, they are all coomers coping at their own failure. OP, continue the relationship and I wish you well.
Everyone here telling you not to do this is jealous.
Yeah I'm ignoring everyone. She's really opened up to me and she's not my first gf. I'm her first boyfriend since lockdown and she is the one texting and calling me all the time. If she was cheating she would already move on despite the time zone differences
It’s absurd. Even if it isn’t cuckhold fantasy it’s super cynical. I do understand the worry but to be this insistent on it is strange
Pathological seething for crabs in a bucket. They want to hurt others as they've been hurt.
>be me first time in Japan
>met a wonderful girl, literally a 10/10
>LDR
>as soon as I go back home book another trip to Japan for her birthday
>spend time together
>she goes abroad to study English for 6 months
>invite her to my home country paying for the plane tickets
>she is not sure, her parents are against it
>accidentaly told her that my dream is getting married and have kids (not with her, I was saying in general but I'm an idiot who doesn't have experience with girls)
>she left me
crabs in a bucket ITT but if I can give you a piece of advice: enjoy the moment, live your life and for fricks sake finish your degree in your home country.
unis in JP are a fricking joke.
I have the best memories of my life in Japan and I'll be back asap (still learning Japanese as a hobby) but your romance with the girl is probably won't last so again focus on yourself and your career, if you really want to live in Japan find a western company that would hire you. good luck
She has been talking about marriage
no her dream was to be a flight attendant and I told her well my dream is to get married in the future, I wasn't saying "with her" just in general.
she was from a big family (6 people) living in inaka, also she was 25 and I was 30 so my naive ass though there was a chance this would turn into something serious but I was too pushy. I had a chance and I blew it. still I have the most beautiful memories about the time we spent together.
good luck anon, just live your life and don't make too many plans.
unfortunately you are now in college otherwise a good idea would be to apply for the working holiday visa, with that you can stay one year in Japan working part time while you are learning the language.
Thx anon. Too late for studies but yeah I intended on visiting Japan before her. I will also see her in the summer. After that, we will see how it goes.
Dude, if your from the US, get a BA degree in any IT related field at WGU (Western governors university) in less than a year, 8 months more a less, 6 months if you really focus.
>accidentaly told her that my dream is getting married and have kids
>accidentaly
told her that my dream is getting married and have kids (not with her, I was saying in general but I'm an idiot who doesn't have experience with girls)
>>she left me
What's the problem here? You have goals and she's incompatible with them. Respect yourself. Don't simp.
Exactly. Never fear rejection. If she rejects you, she isn't for you and will hold you back
>she left me
i wonder why. was she just looking for a fling or something
Update: thanks for your advice anons. I'm going to continue the relationship until December (when I see her next). I will be staying with her and I think from there I could judge if I want to continue the relationship.
Traveling abroad for pussy is a tale old as time.
>Is it easy for a gajin to get a business job in Japan?
impossible
at best a bachelor's degree lets you be an English teaching assistant in schools, which is much worse pay and less time off than it was in the golden age of 1990~2015 before the Filipinos ruined it
she's probably already on bjc
She's not going to study abroad anymore. She's back in Japan and I will see her in December. I want to see where my relationship goes from there, but I also will see her in summer too
6 page "book".
The real advice from that book could've been one page. The real real advice comes from the kama sutra.
Op, did you at least sleep with her before simping this much.
3 times yes
Does she live alone or with her parents? If you're really interested you can probably ask her family to lend you their couch to sleep on rent free while you look for a job in Japan and get your bearings. Talk to her family every second you can. They can help you get your bearings and tell you if you're making a massive frickup. I've heard about "loud westerner" positions where Japanese companies hire a westerner because the Japanese are too non confrontational and having a Westerner in the room can help shoot down a moronic idea before it's been in production for six months. Talk to her and her family. If you want to marry this girl then have zero qualms about asking for help. The Japanese don't like being straightforward but if you show you're genuinely trying to succeed and not be a burden forever, then they will understand. If you succeed, then their daughter succeeds. By god TALK TO HER FAMILY.
Best advice in the thread. Thanks anon. When I visit her this December I will meet them. I'm staying with her in her apartment.
She didn't stay for you. Don't leave for her.
We are both in college. I will visit her in December and finish my last year. As of now I have an internship lined up for summer that will actually allow me to go to Japan. I might have success with an international company so I can live in both.
moronic logic. Would you uproot your entire life and move to a foreign country, assuming you've even been to one?
>Would you uproot your entire life and move to a foreign country
NTA but literally the only thing keeping me where I am is my mother
If she passed today I'd be trying to emigrate the day after the funeral
t.leaf
I'm going to be living in Japan for 2 years doing a post-doctoral fellowship, but I don't think that's an easy way in
Should I go back and ALT at 40? I am done with the west
Are you good looking at 40, or washed up?
It's a bit embarrassing to make ALT salary at that age, I think the only girls who would fall for you are the kind who'd have unrealistic expectations and get disgusted with you after a while.
I personally don't hire anyone over the age of 35 unless they have years of real experience. You'd be starting too late in a field mostly dominated by kids willing to work for shit pay.
Not him but I have the same question. I'm reasonably good looking (not bald, not fat) but not a male model. I have a lot saved from working us IT for over a decade, so I don't mind a low salary. I just want to hang out in Japan, have an easy job, and get a cute younger girlfriend.
OP here, bro. I'm not the best-looking and know very little Japanese. We were the same age, but having confidence and bettering yourself goes a long way.
I mean, obviously I'm not confident, because I've spent the last 10 years staring a computer terminal all day, and getting ignored by women to the point where I'm considering moving to a foreign country just to get a gf. I've had multiple people tell me that "it was cute how nervous you looked :p" but I have no idea how to fix it. Maybe if enough Japanese cuties think I'm exotic it would boost my confidence.
Anyway I was really just asking about the job interview. What should I say when they ask why I want this job?
(Cont)
I have enough money to buy a house and retire (in a cheap area) in Japan. But I need a visa either from English teaching or marriage. I just want to teach long enough to meet someone and get married. Then either retire or work remote.
I believe you can get permanent residency if you marry.
That's a hard one. I'm still a Uni student but you can try learning the language. And about foreign girls, as long as you are confident with them and present yourself well (dress well, clean, well mannered) you should be fine.
i do know some japanese. the problem it's a really hard language, and speaking japanese make me even more awkward/limited. I feel like I do better sticking to English, where it filters to women that like foreigners and I can say a lot more.
Yes of course, but finding someone to marry is hard when you're a tourist
thanks that's good advice. i have a a few female friends on instagram/line. should I just relantlessly ask them about their hobbies and interests? It feels kind of boring and pathetic though. I'm not actually very interested in her tastes in music and jdramas...
Learn about her career, college and other hobbies, especially something she's passionate about.
One tip of advice to break out of the "Japanese fake compassion" is to show more interest in the girl. Talk about yourself, but ask/show more interest in her. Also, Japanese girls take flirting better than most American girls.
>considering moving to a foreign country to get a gf
you do know that the saying of if you can't get laid in your own turf, you won't get laid in a foreign turf is real, right? it's even harder in foreign land due to different languages and cultures.
>JBW
that hasn't been a thing since 20 years ago, if you wanna pull JBW out then korea, taiwan or SEA will still work
>4 years
how about you ask her if she has a bf/partner before everything?
>>4 years
>how about you ask her if she has a bf/partner before everything?
You think that wasn't the number one question on my mind when I got back to seeing her? She doesn't.
UPDATE: I'm visiting her in December. I will pick her up from her college, spend my time in Tokyo and then taking her back to the US for Christmas
Yen is about to hit 150 per USD, make sure you get paid in USD
I'm about to up my budget!
Which language schools in Tokyo do you anons recommend that will sponsor a student visa for at least a year? Also, can I work part time on a student visa in some cashier job or something over there?
Need advice, I'm in Japan now (visa) and I'm thinking about asking out a girl I've known for about 4 years. We hung out a little in college but kept in touch sporadically during lockdown. When I came back to visit Japan earlier this year we hung out again and wandered around her town, it was nice. After I moved here we hung out again, so I think she at least likes me as a friend but the fact that she never messages me first along with the fact I asked her out in college and she said no is leaving me conflicted over whether or not I still have a chance with her now. I just don't know if I should be upfront with her the next time I see her or just wait for things to play themself out
I think it is best to be upfront. Don't do it as soon as you see her, but if you don't make the first move, she's definitely not.
I had more or less planned on asking her the 3rd time, I felt like the last 2 times we've hung out were more formalities since I was either vacationing or just moving in. But I figure I'll have a better idea next time I see her.
Yeah definitely make the move. Be confident and don't be afraid of rejection.
hang out 3 times, and confess to her during the 3rd time. then you'll be an official couple. that's the japanese way.
>never messages me first
Sounds grim. Is she super shy and reserved?
Kind of. I think she just has her own life but I notice when we're talking she doesn't like to make eye contact. But she did message me first once to tell me happy new years and she also paid for my dinner when I met her on my birthday, so I think she at least sees me as a good friend
Most Asian girls are like that. Be expressive with her and tell her it's OK to express herself. You should be there for her.
shes a dumb b***h. make her ask you out. women should take control of their own lives. shes a boring person
UPDATE: Just got off the phone with her, she told me that she has been seeing three other men. I am heartbroken. I thought it was gonna be like one of my animes.
u naive dumbass. welcome to reality where women are moronic, cheating prostitutes.
>u naive dumbass.
ironic
Lmao we are still talking lol. I've already found arrangements to live with her
who is who is who? there is OP and 4 years anon from what i can tell
So I'm the one who said we are still dating and I found living arrangements but just for the time I'm there. I will stay with her for two days in Nagoya, and she will stay with me in Tokyo for 3 days. I'm there for a total of 10 days so those other 5 days I'm going to go to Nagasaki or something else
10 days is nothing. You realize you need a visa to stay longer than 90 days, right? And you can't work on a tourist visa. You pretty much need her to marry you.
When I made the thread I was very impulsive because she just left. I understand now that it's a Fools Dream but I will see her again in Summer. We both agreed to finish our degrees and work from there.
There's a bunch of cuck homosexuals pretending to be other posters to fulfill their cuckold fantasies. Ignore them.
As an aside, no reason at all for op to ignore his dreams and opportunities. Worst comes to worst he lost a few months and a ticket to japan, big deal. All you jaded pussies in this thread, live a little.
What I don't get is that if it doesn't work out I'm still going to Japan for the first time. As of now we are still good so I think people are just mad
>tfw can't move to Japan for at least 3 years due to a fricktard financial obligation I tardwrangled myself into
>dating one month
>he wants to move to Japan
Babby's first girlfriend, is it? It's not gonna last, but enjoy the ride. If you just want to bang Japanese women, move to Ft. Lee NJ - there's plenty Japanese there, Japanese stores and get this - people speak English!
Get your yellow fever fix but don't be a moron.
Ft Lee is mostly asiatics not japs
>visited Japan for a month on vacation
>loved every second of it, wanted to stay for longer
>want to move there for a couple of years and teach english
>have heard that working in Japan will ruin your perception of the country
I dunno bros
I really want to live in Japan long-term but I also don't want to ruin the good memories I have of the country
>teaching english
that's the only flaw in the plan. Get a real job in Japan or settle for just regular vacations there
I don't intend to live in Japan permanently, just a year or two depending on how much I like it
>teaching english
>that's the only flaw in the plan.
it's basically my only option unfortunately
I currently work in Japan for an America entity but I deal with Japanese corps and other workers all the time. Work is work and sucks well most places in the world.
That being said it really depends, I personally find there to be significantly less bullshit in the jap corpo world than in the USA. Shit gets done and done well and I never have to worry about half-assed measures. On the flip side there are cultural quirks like promotion being age based and some holdover office culture like not leaving before your boss does. Also decisions in business take forever to get passed on. However this is something I don't mind because I want people to carefully analyze anything I promote and rushing to decision imo just shows a lack of give a frick and poor risk taking skills.
tl;dr: Japan is just like the US in that there are shitty jobs and god jobs, it all depends.
So, I'm not OP, but I want to go to a language school and try working in Japan for awhile.
I have an advanced degree, with FANG experience, and I'm searching around for tech stuff. Does any one have suggestions?
UPDATE: I'm banging her right now!
One more month yeah
At worst you got a place to stay in Japan and someone to take your around. I'd make a trip for sure.
I say let him get rekt. Every guy should get heartbroken.
As for remote workers interested in being abroad, most companies don't allow for it due to tax reasons.
But a work around is getting a VPN router.