i'm leaving for a 1 year whv in Australia in 2 weeks, i never seen a lot of people talk about it here, does any of you anons have some expereinces with it?
My plan is to make some money and frick some cute 20 yo backpackers, i don't care if i have to work in farms or other hard jobs as long as they pay me well. What do you think about this? is it simple to find jobs?
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You're better off working in NZ instead since you highlighted about working in farms. It's fairy easy to get those kind of work
It's easy to find farm work in Aus too, as long as you're willing to go regional/rural
they don't pay well though, it's a scam because people need to work on a farm to extend their visa
Expect an extreme cost of living if you're planning to go to NZ. Food, transportation, accommodation is insanely overpriced
>one year working holiday
That's an awfully long "holiday". Personally, I wouldn't want to spend summer in Australia. Too damn hot.
>work on a farm that pays me well
I only have experience with workstays, and not in Australia. You are not paid for your labor; people do it for the cool factor, as some of the host farms have a great social atmosphere and plenty of fun activities for their "volunteers". Working and living at a large organic farm with livestock is where you are most likely to meet you a cute, adventurous 20 yo animal lover chick.
Otherwise, don't go for paid farm work or any work in a rural, remote destination if you want to pursue hookups or a short-term relationship. It's a sausage fest. Of course, you can hit up the bars in town on Friday or Saturday night with your new mates and try to pull a chick, but every other guy for 50 miles around will be there with the same goal. And then how do you take her home if you don't have a car?
not a backpacker - I'm australian
I've met plenty of you lot over the years - it seems easy to get a job - a lot of shit jobs out there that will exploit you though - so choose carefully
the normal idea is do a couple months farm work then you get a 2nd year added to your WHV, then use most of your time to travel around australia
you dont actually need to do farm work by the way, most backpackers dont realsie this - it can be any job in a regional area
I've worked with irish backpackers with engineering degrees from back home, that came and worked construction jobs here in regional locations - clearing $100K+ salary then blowing all the money on coke and fricking other backpackers the rest of the time
I have background in geology, can I get an entry-level position somewhere in the outback to get the 2d year extension?
Where exactly should I target in the outback for that part of the WHV?
>it seems easy to get a job - a lot of shit jobs out there that will exploit you though - so choose carefully
i can second this
t.aussie that works in the hospo industry, i hear wild variations from backpackers all the time.
I’ve been here for 8 months now
It’s alright, the countryside is beautiful and there are some nice towns, but I feel all the positives of Australia are overshadowed by the insane cost of living.
If you want to have fun, you have to accept you will be broke all the time and won’t be able to do/see most of the stuff that you want to
If you want to make money, you have to accept that you’re going to spend almost all of your time here working
Don’t expect to be able to float around the country, a month here a month there, picking up casual jobs to fund it, going out all the time and seeing all the great sights etc. that’s how every backpacker imagines it before they arrive (myself included) and they quickly learn that that isn’t possible. The money you have on arrival will last maybe a month, then you’ll have to find a job. Depending what part of the country you’re in and the time of year, that could be relatively easy or near impossible. Then unless you’re doing a job with very long hours and overtime rates, it’ll take you a long time to save up enough to get back on the road again. Once you’re back on the road you might have another few weeks before you run out of money again and get stuck somewhere else for months.
Op here, where did you start? I will arrive in Sydney and like you said i'm scared because of the high cost of living. My plan is to work hard in the first months and then if i saved something travel around in my last 1 or 2 months. Tbh if find a good work i would also sacrifice traveling around australia and go visit SEA for some months once my visa end
I started in Sydney but didn’t stay long, I went to Port Macquarie and worked on the tomato farm there for a few weeks, then to Byron and worked at a restaurant for 2 months (if you go to Byron don’t work at the Greek restaurant next to the Beach Hotel, boss is a psycho). Then I was running out of money so I went to Melbourne to work as a construction labourer for a few months. Then I travelled for a month, now in Brisbane labouring again for a few months to save for a trip around Queensland and SEA when my visa ends.
Labouring work is easy to get and imo the best way to earn a lot of money as a backpacker with little experience. The downside is long hours.
Sounds like a good adventure and also very similar to my plan. good luck anon
>the insane cost of living
its fine though
just literally dont live in a capital city and get a job wearing a hi-viz vest
even basic shit like traffic control or construction work pays a 6 figure salary in Aus, which is part of the reason why shit's so expensive.
yeah but those jobs are six figures because they’re 50+ hrs a week
backpackers don’t go backpacking because they want to work 50 hours a week
many end up doing it anyway because it’s the fastest way to save money then continue travelling
the waiters and bartenders I know make frick all money
Can I go without working? Old gay here and I saw they raised the age limit to 35 for Brits. I don't really need the money from working on a fricking farm in 40degree heat with snakes and spiders and that kind of shit
yeah you can go and just frick around for 1 year if you have the money for it
Whinging pommy c**t
They never advertise these fruit picking jobs to locals, or at least in English, then they say they can never find workers and need to import more. You do have rights, in fact the government has been taking active steps to try stop exploitation, there are many bosses that got used to treating working holiday visa employees like shit though and try to continue to do so despite the law. Keep this in mind if you get a bad boss, they aren't allowed to threaten that they won't sign your forms if you've done the work (no matter how well or poorly you've completed the tasks). Its a big business and even large international companies will do it, simply turning a blind eye because it was actually the subcontractor that screwed you (the same people from the same company that 'went bankrupt' just after harvest season last year too)
Similarly, try avoid jobs that do board. The whole scam is to charge huge amounts for a bed (which is even easier to do these days because there is a housing crisis and thousands are becoming homeless each day) which means that all the money they pay you just feeds back into their pockets. My brother, who is a local, managed to get into one of these jobs through a foreign website. He worked long hours, survived off ramen and didn't drink or anything, he came home after a couple months with only $600 in his bank account. Welfare pays $700 a fortnight for comparison.
Just be wary, there are a lot of rural employers will literally frick you over for the fun of it because there isn't much else to do in those parts. That being said there are a lot that are top blokes and just need a couple of extra hands around the farm, just don't get done in by the ones putting on a friendly facade so they can frick you harder later down the line and put you in a seemingly impossible position.
Yeah farmers treat workers really rudely because they got used to back Packers.
If they employed all Australians and acted the way they did farmers would get their jaws tested.
They also employ Koreans to be managers because they know nothing about Australian work culture and will treat workers like shit just because the boss said to.
Pick cherries in young NSW, try hallmark. Then do same in Tasmania. Watch for snakes but enjoy $300+ a day and Quebecois girls. Or do NZ, try fortuMMX0W4ne fruit.
>grey nurse sharks
ffs. bull sharks are the ones you gotta worry about.. aggo little c**ts. grey nurses are typically chill (our aquariums are full of them)
I really can't understand why anyone would want to come to this shit hole.
Good money but everything else sucks
One of like 10-15 countries in the world with a med climate (objectively the best)
The only country Im aware of on that list that isnt either a shitskin country with active pogroms against whites (south africa, the US), a shitskin country where whites living there isnt really normal (the middle east, africa, parts of asia), or a white country getting directly overrun by waves of invading Black folk (France, Italy, Spain etc.)
It has multiple cities in the top of global rankings of the most functional/liveable cities on earth
Its close enough to the Valeriepieris circle to have access to the markets of asia while also being far enough away that china or any other asian empire would have trouble controlling or conquering it. Its also far enough from the US that a break with US foreign policy is at least plausible sometime in the next 50 years
For major english-speaking countries its the third lowest for israelites per capita on earth behind only Ireland and NZ. Just as crucially, something like 90+% of their israelite infestation is confined to the two biggest cities, which makes it easy to avoid
I can go on...
But it's filled with Australians
>umm le heckin med climate is the best!!!!
Enjoy your skin cancer. I'll go skiing (sunscreen APPLIED) instead.
Canadachads can't stop winning
Shut the frick up leaf
Also
>Hurry durr muh I'll go skiing
It's July you fricking tard, not even Whistler has snow this deep into summer. Do your research before you shitpost next time
I have often thought being stuck with a bike that wasn't starting in the deep outback would be panic inducing
Yeah bro because I meant I’m going skiing right this moment on a post I made at 8pm on a Tuesday in July. moron
Best place to rent a car in Sydney for like $30-40 a day? Just at the airport? Going for a week at the end of the month. Never driven on the left but have my American license.
I've backpacked in Australia in 2016 for about 6 months and had to leave early because I blew my budget.
I stayed in YHA hostels most of the time and met some nice short-term friends to do trips with.
I've wasted a lot of time simply looking for work.
In my experience the competition was fierce with tons of other backpackers and I was pretty picky myself.
I've heard construction/road work was pretty easy to get and do, but I didn't try it myself.
I did WWOOFing twice and it was a great way to get to know the locals and save some money.
Most big cities have some great libraries with free access to computers/internet, which you can use for your job search, etc.
All in all I had a great time and I've only had two really negative experiences, both times it was doing paid work on two different farms.
Basically the farmers know how desperate backpackers are for work to get their 88 days, so they know they can get away with treating people like shit.
It doesn't help that there are a frickton of asians that are ok with being treated like shit.
Be careful of shit like "2 week cowboy training" with "guaranteed work", these are basically scams where you PAY farmers to do labor.
How much did you budget for year 1? What work skills did you have at the time, ie bachelors, useful blue collar experience?
What is WWOOFing?
Where did you go during your WHV?
>picrel
Because shes best girl and id be willing to be a human sacrifice for a chance to sniff her socks
>farmers know how desperate backpackers are for work to get their 88 days, so they know they can get away with treating people like shit.
We're fricking sick of these people as well, but backpackers are the people who keep these c**ts in business and undermine any attempt in the community to run them out.
They're bad landlords, bad employers and creeps rolled into one. The backpacker is a stupid tenant, desperate worker and venurable young piece of ass all rolled into one.
Most backpackers refuse to report these people and because they're leaving the country don't follow through with official investigations.
And rural people who register as employers just to give backpackers their 88 days (lonely hobby farmers) are a mixed bag, some are super chill hippies but others are trying to lure foreigners into stupid schemes. Usually stupid rather than malicious but still not reliable.
Working holiday in Australia was like playing life on easy mode for me, I was there pre-covid.
I got an RSA (Responsible service of alcohol) certification which was done in a single day including classes and tests for about $125 AUD.
After that finding pub and bar work was so easy, a few times I literally walked into busy looking pubs and got work on the spot. Lots of places paying in cash for backpackers too.
Know your rights like minimum wage, casual loading, holiday pay etc and don't let the owners skimp on your pay.
Some holidays and weekends I was making upwards of $50/hr. How is anyone in Australia broke? I actually saved money while traveling the country, I hit every state on the east coast and worked max 4 days a week, usually 3 or less.
Avoid trying to get work at RSL's they are more strict and by the book, also they basically never hire backpackers. Looks for pubs/surf club or bars, anything on the coast has a constant rotation of backpackers and having an RSA puts you ahead of most of them.
I want to move back there but I don't have a university degree or any real skills so it's basically impossible. I miss it so damn much. I could earn more in a week there than I can in a month here in America. Life fricking sucks here.
i would love to swap one of the ungrateful little c**ts that lives here for you mate but we only import pajeets and chinks these days.
but seriously, the new govt is redoing stuff so it's more focussed on getting the tradesmen in we need, to build houses. so look at getting into that if you want to come.
Im Australian and bartended growing up, the problem is that a lot of this work is seasonal and if you're travelling around that might not be obvious.
Living costs are seriously unbalanced here, locals can't avoid certain long term expenses and we're so pissed off about these that kind of counter-intuitivly we try to help anyone get out of paying who we can.
Especially in rural areas its just accepted that not everyone can afford things like propper shoes and workwear, machinery/car repairs, accomodation, permits, furniture etc.
They're a bell curve of salty, often the people hardest hit become more generous to spite the universe.
Not op but I want to frick around and do dirtbike/adventure bike shit in the Australian deserts. How can I achieve this with limited funds?
join an overlanding group and tour with them if possible. it'll mostly be 4x4's but it's safety and support in numbers
had a mate attempt an around australia adventure bike trip, but bailed when he realised he was 1500+ kms from the next proper town, on a poorly maintained and rutted dirt track, with only remote aboriginal communities along the way.. not the best place to park up unless you can guard your shit 24/7.
He's been riding for decades and was fairly well prepared for the trip (for a solo rider), but simply underestimated how harsh and hard it would be.
Tips from my mate: get a satellite phone, if you're parking up near town, lock your bike away, either in a gated community, or wheel it into your motel room. also triple your expected water ration.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59301237
>he realised he was 1500+ kms from the next proper town, on a poorly maintained and rutted dirt track,
Im confused, where is this that you can get so far off track doing a circuit of australia? I tried dropping some pins in google maps and the main road networks all seem to be paved at least single lane.
Youd have to make some compromises if you were just autistically obsessed with following the coastline circuit, but the only really significant diversion is the darwin-townsville leg
And 1500km+ with no sign of civilization is hard to believe unless he literally just drove off into the desert off-road in a random direction. 1500km will get you from alice springs to adelaide or darwin with at least a half a dozen small towns along the way. Australias big and remote, but not that much
dunno, wasnt there. only going on what he told me, but I'm paraphrasing so it's likely it wasn't 1500k's in reality, but it was a fricking long way and bad enough for his hardened, stubborn ass to turn tail and head back that far in. IIRC he was in the NT heading towards WA when he threw in the towel. I generally trust this guy on his word, so he must've been in the thick of it. Either way, he's planning on going back next year for another attempt, likely sticking to the highway network for that part
As for google, not every trail is documented onthere. yes there's a fairly decent national road network that's paved, but there's literally hundreds, if not thousands of overlanding tracks. Google would have a shitfight on their hands if a GPS units started directing uncle Darryn in his 1997 camry up one of those trails. (hence why I suggested joining some overlanding groups if he wanted to 'frick around in the desert')
either way, best for OP to look into it themselves and go from there
full of shit i've done that, theres a couple of places you might have to go 200kms but that's about it. though I did think of doing it on motorbike, ended up going in a small car instead as carrying spares or plugging on a bike I was uncomfortable with because there can be long periods where you see no one.
it's recommended to take about 20l of water with you too, but frick that on a bike.
>And 1500km+ with no sign of civilization
Probably rhetorical, but people who are scared and lost can travel a very long way just by going back and forth or going around in circles. They get tunnel vision and stop behaving rationally, for example they might become fixated on finding a turnoff sign and drive past a gas station or ignore another motorist who could have just told them.
Australians often don't appreciate how sparse their country is, they walk 5km to get into town, they drive 150km just to get to work or 1500kms to visit family interstate.
In European terms that's rediculous, and when I lived in Europe they found my tendency to walk through three towns to go to a store, drive across France to get to work or to drive to poland to see someone bizarre.
Foreigners often become afraid when they can't see a building, many have never even been in a nature reserve so big that they couldn't see a building.
The space between my paddock and my neibours paddock is bigger than any park they've ever been in.
I experienced this myself in the Russian taiga, possibly the only place less populated than rural Australia
Frick off we're full
i'm gonna come and frick your women you can't stop me
I am a land surveyor here in the states, 24 years old and want an opportunity to travel and make some money but at the same time somewhat advancing my career. Can I obtain a working visa through applying for a job?
Plenty of work going, dunno about the visa situation. Not backpacker work, doubt anyone would let you walk in and use their thousand dollar surveying kit in case you fricked off with it.
I am going to visit Australia soon, I have a bit of money saved but not sure if its enough. How much money do you need for around a month? Planning to rent a camper and just sleep in it.
What's the difference between a Working Holiday visa (Subclass 417) and a Work and Holiday visa (Subclass 462)?