Recently bought a used £60 bike to try out cycling and realised that I really enjoy it. Only problem is, riding alongside cars is really stressful, there pretty much aren't any bike paths here in England. I heard in the Netherlands cycling is a much bigger part of the culture, would it be worth it moving there just cause I like riding bikes?
Absolutely.
The food is just as awful, the language equally ugly and the society just as soullessly capitalistic/mercantile/Protestant like England but the women are much hotter, the countryside much more picturesque, the cities clean and walkable and you can blaze it legally.
And yes, bike riding is very much part of the culture there.
Good luck trying to emigrate as a bong doe, you're no longer part of the EU chap.
Sounds like an upgrade. Thankfully I have a EU passport
Booty
dude there are tons of cycle routes in the uk you just haven't found them
yeah we generally aren't very good at putting cycle paths along roads mainly because drivers are c**ts
but we have loads of cycle paths along rivers, reclaimed railways, across country etc etc, just google uk cycle routes or summat
also they are much more interesting than the routes in the netherlands which is just fricking endless boring flat nothingness
Dutch cities are much more bike friendly.
The English countryside is far bleaker
>Dutch cities are much more bike friendly.
this is true
>The English countryside is far bleaker
this is false
I don't want to just ride nice routes, I also want good commuting routes, which is arguably the most important thing for me as I want bikes to be my main method of transport. But in here I'm bound to ride alongside cars if I want to get anywhere.
It being flat sounds like a big plus as I won't have to bust my ass just to get somewhere. I actually like hills and mountains but riding them sucks.
Might consider it
I haven't been in many places here but I'd say it's pretty
>It being flat sounds like a big plus as I won't have to bust my ass just to get somewhere. I actually like hills and mountains but riding them sucks.
Just commute with an ebike
Denmark is also full of bike infrastructure but it isn't nearly as flat as Netherlands.
I couldn't move to the Netherlands because of the cultural autism. It's not a meme—Dutch people are blunt to a fault. I get that you are trying to "save time and get to the point," but it just comes off as rude to everyone except the Dutch themselves and maybe Germans.
The cities are beautiful and the transportation is amazing, however. When flying internationally, I usually check Schiphol first. It's easy and convenient, which is perfect because I get anxious before flying.
To be honest, as long as it's not just straight up rudeness and more of a desire to be honest, then I think I can get behind it. I like being direct, but often (at work specifically) have to cover my idea behind unnecessary layers of niceties and apologies.
The problem with the netherlands is the expats their all seem unsufferable and until you learn Dutch that's who your friends are going to be.
It seems like the most annoying people move there.
Never heard "expat" until today, do you mean people who relocated specifically for their job? In any case if I'm moving there I'm planning to go to university, hopefully it's easier to make friends there.
>expat
Immigrants with either a degree or high salary.
Not really. The Pakistani laborers in UAE are called expats
Expats: Temporary
Immigrants: Permanent
expat is just the bullshit term racists use for immigrants that look like you. Expats are immigrants too but not like THOSE immigrants as far as morons are concerned.
Just like how Dutch people moving to Australia and celebrating Kings Day in orange hats are considered expats and it's this fun story of: look at these Dutchies in Australia celebrating their culture! while we give immigrants here the business for celebrating their culture.
Dutchies get berated by the Anglosphere every year for celebrating Zwarte Piet around Christmas for allegedly being racist even though the tradition predates American minstrel shows by several centuries.
Now that we're entering December be on the lookout for a new slew of articles in English-language media slamming the Dutch for wearing blackface, ignoring the cultural context where the tradition developed entirely.
Black Pete does not predate minstrel shows by several centuries, more like a couple of years.
>In 1850, the Amsterdam-based primary school teacher Jan Schenkman published the book Sint Nikolaas en zijn Knecht ("Saint Nicholas and his Servant" in English). It is widely considered the first time a servant character was included in a printed version of the Saint Nicholas narrative. The servant is depicted as a page who appears as a dark-skinned person wearing clothes associated with Moors.
Be on the lookout for moronic media outlets saying Black Pete is just covered in soot and all criticism is woke madness.
>I'm planning to go to university, hopefully it's easier to make friends there.
This is true, although housing is difficult in the Netherlands. If you want Dutch friends, learn Dutch. You can get by with English though. Just so you know: the myth among foreign students is that Dutch people are very cold. This is because not all Dutch people speak English in their spare time since it can be quite tiring.
how on earth have you never heard the term "expat" before
the difference between "expat" and "immigrant" is that "expat" usually has some implication that there is still a connection to the home country, either the intention to return after some time or not giving up citizenship for some reason. whereas "immigrant" usually implies permanent residence and/or citizenship etc.
I googled beforehand but saw varied definitions. In any case, your explanation makes more sense, thanks.
>In any case if I'm moving there I'm planning to go to university, hopefully it's easier to make friends there.
Yeah foreign students are probably better.
If you actually want to live their long term, learn Dutch and integrate
you do know we ride on the other side of the road right? I have to the UK twice in the last 2 months and I have to look 6 times before I know if it's safe to cross a street because my brain doesn't understand where traffic is coming from. I would never ride a bike there even on safe bike paths.
That's fine, I think I'll get used to it quickly. I lived in a country where it's this way most of my life.
Good plan to be honest. But also I like the simplicity and cheapness of regular bikes, and that it's less likely to be stolen. Of course moving to a different country kind of negates the cheapness factor but still
Lol sounds like a term for someone who's too prideful to be called an immigrant
Good to know, thanks
>immigrant
Hard-working and entrepreneurial individual who BUILDS the country they emigrate to
>expat
A leech, typically a retired Boomer who contributes nothing to the country they move to, they usually spend their time raping minors and lounging
Other way around. Third World migrants bring little if anything to a country, and collect gibs that usually outweigh their meager contributions, which are inferior to native laborers due to their lower intelligence, poor education, poor communication skills, and sloppy "good enough for me" work ethic.
Expats are usually affluent White retirees who invest in a poorer community, provide good-paying jobs, and enable social improvements (if corrupt Third World officials don't pocket the flood of revenue from foreign investment, as is all too common).
"muh pedo expats" is a smear by jealous haters who will never have the choice of expatriation. Age of consent laws exist throughout the world, and minor abuse by a foreigner is always taken seriously.
I am bike enjoyer too
Yeah it's so cool
Just do it, OP!
1. learn dutch
2. bring your sisters
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You're welcome
I don't want to live in the US