Sleeping Supplement Megathread

What's your poison of choice to fall asleep on a longhaul flight?

Melatonin is not really strong enough.

Thailand pharmacy gave me trazodone which is literally an anti-depressant, calmed me down but im reading a lot of potential risks and side-effects online so would like something else.
Also gives you an erection, which was not ideal, sitting two seats from some girl.

I've been reading about Tylenol but it apparently increases the risk of alzheimers, aka destroys your brain.

Would like to stay away from benzo's etc. as I would probably abuse it.

Any tips? Herbal medicine? Research chemicals? OTC-medicine?
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The more natural and less impact on your body the better, but has to be strong enough for plane ride.

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >trazodone which is literally an anti-depressant, calmed me down but im reading a lot of potential risks and side-effects
    Such as?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      All kinds of shit, heart-health and blood pressure which im kinda paranoid about especially.

      https://www.healthline.com/health/drugs/trazodone-oral-tablet

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Passion flower extract

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that really strong enough for a flight?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a good choice

      Is that really strong enough for a flight?

      Yes, it can be very strong (and wonderfully strange)

      anti-histamines

      This works well too

      Just close your eyes, why the fuck do you have to be dependent on drugs even for fucking sleeping?

      >flight the following day
      >the night before it's always impossible for me to sleep
      >just lie on my bed, trying to keep my eyes closed
      >end up barely having sleep anyway
      >flight, transfer, etc
      >finally arrive at my accommodation
      Don't know why but whenever I arrive at my destination, I get back all of my energy and just power through the rest of the day. Doesn't matter if I'm just walking through a city, jumping down waterfalls, or shipwreck diving.
      The sleep that follows this second wind is always the best.

      honestly agree. Sleeping is a skill you can learn to do

      I've always taken a melatonin and a muscle relaxer (can buy hundreds for like 5$ in Mexico) and usually that helps turn me into a marshmallow. I did take half an Ambien coming back from New Zealand this year and idk if anything can beat that. I was in an aisle seat and still managed to sleep like seven hours.

      Ambien is great so long as you don't wake up and don't abuse it

      In addition to everything mentioned above, also try:
      -L-Theanine
      -Magnesium
      -Valerian
      -Chamomile
      -Hops extract
      -GABA

      and if you're open minded, Delta wave binaural beats can help too

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just get drunk and pass out

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      and spend the last half of the flight hungover?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        get a buzz then and try to fall asleep. ask for orange juice right before you pass out.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Drink a ton of sugar to prevent a hangover

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just keep drinking lol or bring some valium and fade out once you wake up

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    anti-histamines

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just read a book. jeez americans and their meds, no wonder you're always shooting up schools

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im european.

      Cant focus on a book during 15 hour flight buddy.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Cant focus on a book during 15 hour flight buddy.
        that's probably because you take too many meds

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          checked for
          >muh meds

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >solo going to Japan
    >finished work, went to airport
    >3hr flight, 4hr layover + another 12 / 13 hour flight
    >too excited to sleep
    >arrive brain dead in Tokyo, had to navigate 5 train rides at peak times to get to my hotel
    >first day is wasted
    I think next time I'll be drinking / taking meds beforehand

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just close your eyes, why the fuck do you have to be dependent on drugs even for fucking sleeping?

      >flight the following day
      >the night before it's always impossible for me to sleep
      >just lie on my bed, trying to keep my eyes closed
      >end up barely having sleep anyway
      >flight, transfer, etc
      >finally arrive at my accommodation
      Don't know why but whenever I arrive at my destination, I get back all of my energy and just power through the rest of the day. Doesn't matter if I'm just walking through a city, jumping down waterfalls, or shipwreck diving.
      The sleep that follows this second wind is always the best.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Just close your eyes, why the fuck do you have to be dependent on drugs even for fucking sleeping?

        Dunno, might have something to do with the fact that im hurling through the air at 20 thousand feet in a steel cage that moves all the time and makes too much noise to listen to anything without noise cancelling headphones.

        Instead id like to pop a pill twice a year so I can teleport to the part where I've arrived at my destination, well rested.

        There's like 5 threads on sex tourism, but as soon as you mention taking literal medicine (muh drugs), all the nerds come out to cry.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry that we're not all Americans who prefer narcotics and violence over sex with women.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            What is with you retards?

            I said above already i'm European.
            I never take any drugs, but would prefer to tune out for a 15-20 hour flight.

            Do you even travel?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry that we're not all Americans who prefer narcotics and violence over sex with women.

              is just a seething beta (probably a euro manlet) who is upset his women keep getting raw dogged by big American cock

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most people who post here are spergs with zero social skills. You come here and ask perfectly reasonable questions and get loads of those type of responses.

          I try to schedule long flights like like that that take off late at night so I'm already tired from the day. I pop 15 mg of ambien and am out for a good 8 hours. Don't drink alcohol as it dehydrates the fuck out of you and you wake up feeling like shit. Thats the best solution I've figured outside of business/first class.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Magnesium Threonate.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I take mexican/colombian versions of ambien & lunesta (so benzos) that I stockpile when I visit those countries.

    Fortunately I don't have an addictive personality. I also fly business class for my overseas travels, and most long flights I book just so happen to be scheduled for late evening/nighttime departure.

    >Arrive at airport and visit assorted lounges due to credit card status or biz-class ticket
    >Drink a little booze, sample a few bites
    >Board plane, receive complimentary pre-departure mimosa
    >Order a white wine to have with my meal. Eat up.
    >During the dessert portion, order a red wine and take my benzo pills
    >Get up to use the bathroom one last time, have seat converted to bed
    >Watch movie on my laptop (prefer it over the in-flight screen) while propped up with pillows and finishing the wine
    >Off to dreamland I go. No noise or turbulence can impact this level of deep sleep.

    >Get tapped on the shoulder
    >Informed we'll be landing in 2 hours (so slept for 8 to 9 hours), and if I'd like breakfast I must order it now
    >Enjoy a hearty breakfast and cappuccino
    >Land in whatever nightmare shithole where I can immediately begin cooming in whores vigorously

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol

      I did think about the complimentary wine, but dunno if I wanna fuck with benzo's etc as I might like it too much.

      Guess I'll try to get some ambien in asia

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Regarding benzos, you can cut the pills in half and usually just a half-dose is effective. At least for me, since I've had like 4 wine beverages within the 3 hour window of taking those pills.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      neither of those are benzos retard

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, I'm a lightweight drinker so I can just drink 2 or 3 glasses of wine & I'm out for 6 hours kek

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    in my opinion melatonin is fine. 4 mg is safe to take regularly, but to sleep quickly once in a while you can up the dosage

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Melatonin isn't enough for a long flight, I keep waking up.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Use melatonin in conjunction with a pre adjusted sleep schedule, just pull a short night before power it through the day on caffine if you need, pop a melatonin capsule before boarding, done.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol i take 10 mg of melatonin every night before bed

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always taken a melatonin and a muscle relaxer (can buy hundreds for like 5$ in Mexico) and usually that helps turn me into a marshmallow. I did take half an Ambien coming back from New Zealand this year and idk if anything can beat that. I was in an aisle seat and still managed to sleep like seven hours.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing can help me. I'm not able to fall asleep when I'm sitting up. I just keep nodding off into thin air, even with sleeping pills.

    If I can lie down, the best is zopiclone. I can even fall asleep on my back with that, and that was very useful when I had a gash on my face and didn't want to sleep on it.

    Zolpidem, AKA ambien, is dangerous. If you're awake too longer after taking it, it'll cause uninhibited behavior and memory loss. You might feel so good that you redose. I quit once I realized I had somehow gone three days without eating. I've never experienced that with zopiclone.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ambien rules. Get used to it at home if u think you cant handle urself. Nothing works better tbough.

      I fly lomg hauls to asian often and this plus spme scotch or wine is a godsend.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never been able to fall asleep sitting up in my entire life.

    That being said, for regular sleepiness, I've found magnesium glycinate is pretty good. Perhaps give that a try? I don't think there could be any downsides, since it's easy on the stomach compared to other forms of magnesium.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mutts on drugs again
    Can't you all do anything without drugs? Simply have a night out with the lads before hand to celebrate your holiday, drink till your flight, pass out on the plane, wake up before landing and pull a little hair of the dog.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3 separate people call me an american

      dutch do drugs too m'kay

      anyway im just trying to pass out for a long flight in economy

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clonindine and thc edibles

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dude the war on drugs propaganda has done a number on your brain. Your liver isn't going to fall out of your body because you took a Tylenol once.

    Trazadone is what my ex gf would take, she was a nervous flyer, it puts you to sleep and reduces your anxiety. It's perfect.

    You can up your melatonin dose, or combine it with benadryl. Every middle class white woman takes Xanax. Drinking is better for short flights than long ones.

    "Natural" doesn't mean anything. It's just a word co-opted like "organic", used by drug companies used to sell low dose placebos with prettier packaging for more money

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Thailand pharmacy gave me trazodone which is literally an anti-depressant
    I take trazodone for depression and anxiety. It’s not really a sleeping pill; although it has been used off-label for insomnia, there are much more effective drugs for that.
    >I've been reading about Tylenol but it apparently increases the risk of alzheimers, aka destroys your brain.
    I assume you mean Tylenol PM (which I believe contains diphenhydramine, an antihistamine that is also the active ingredient in most OTC sleep aids)? I would be more worried in that case about using acetaminophen (AKA paracetamol, the Tylenol part of the Tylenol) when you don’t need it. Very hard on the liver, really shouldn’t be combined with alcohol. Pure diphenhydramine without the Tylenol (Benadryl, Sominex, Zzzzquil) in combination with a bit of alcohol is very effective for passing out, although alcohol reduces sleep quality. I guess there are a few studies suggesting that diphenhydramine might increase the risk for dementia, but I believe it requires heavy use over an extended period and isn’t a 100% certain connection. If it’s the paracetamol that is bad for your brain this is the first I have heard it.

    Personally, on the rare occasions when I have used a non-benzo sleep aid (Valium and a glass of wine are also a guaranteed knockout), I have just used Benadryl. It works. I don’t use any alcohol anymore, so I know that it needn’t be combined with booze to make you sleepy. And my opinion is that the risk of brain degradation for an occasional user is pretty slim even if it is real.

    Regarding bento abuse, trust your instincts on that front. I know that some of them can be surprisingly addictive, with ugly psychological and physical withdrawals—a friend of mine just went through many weeks of hellish symptoms getting off of a short period of taking abusive levels of Klonopin. So if you are inclined to overuse you’re being smart by steering clear.

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A strong indica edible will knock you out for about 8-10 hours.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      and will also fuck up your REM sleep...

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Melatonin has helped but still need to use it responsibly. Like if it’s the middle of the day and I have a bunch of coffee I can’t sleep but am horribly tired. U

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/hubermanlab/status/1481842988477300737

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Phenibut is comfy, super small dose like 250mg will last 12 hours and give you a nice afterglow.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Melatonin will not even work if the reason you can't sleep is stress / fear / anxiety. I'm not at all a druggie, but when I lived in Thailand, I used to buy valium 3 times a year when I had to sit through a cramped mini van ride for 15-20 hours. Made my nerves calm and I slept through a lot of it. You can buy it OTC in Thailand, but just buy 1 or 2 if you don't trust yourself with benzos.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a 30 hour journey coming up next month. Any UK bros that can advise on something I can get over the counter without a prescription? I can never sleep on long journeys. I can always power through the first day when I arrive but would rather just sleep and not feel terrible

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    you guys seriously gotta learn to sleep on command. I mean, do the thing where you contract all muscles then relax them, or listen to some rain sounds, kick back in the emergency door section, whatever you have to do. Being someone who usually needs more sleep than normal I usually compensate by being able to just switch myself off, but it wasnt easy at first and is definitely an acquired skill. At least in my country it'd be pretty darn difficult to get benzos or zolpidem (ambien) prescribed, and melatonin simply doesnt do it for me. It definitely is a very useful skill for regular travelers or commuters.

    there's also the sheer excitation associated with travel that can make you all jumpy jumpy I guess.

    One thing you could do (and I do sometimes) is tire yourself by hitting the gym the day before.

    if anything, I find a simple glass of whatever spirit of choice is served on the plane helps a lot, and won't do much in the way of dehydration anf hangovers, especially if consumed before lunch as an apéritif.

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